Value of: Ristolainen to Toronto.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Definitely- I think he just never learned poise or patience in dzone decisions, he got thrown into big minutes early and got used to just throwing the puck up the boards to escape trouble. Having a good partner who can serve as an escape route would really help- sounds ridiculous, but if Risto just didn’t have to touch the puck inside the blue line he’d be great. It’s like he remembers how to skate once he’s past that point, thus the offense despite no real outlet game.

Sounds like Muzzin would be the perfect partner

 

[TS Quint]

Just because Ristolainen plays on Buffalos top pairing does mean he is a top pairing defenceman.

There is many, many things Dubas would do to clear cap before trading Mitch Marner for Rasmus Ristolainen.

Clearing cap is one thing, blatantly losing a trade value wise is another.

Who does this guy think he's dealing with? Stan Bowman?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Sounds like Muzzin would be the perfect partner

I have a feeling that Leaf fans would generally consider Risto untouchable if he was ever traded to them. Especially seeing his analytics would greatly improve on a team that isn’t a Springfield Tire Fire.

 

[TS Quint]

Hyman isnt a depth piece. But I agree with the others.

If it came to it, i'm sure we could move Marner. I'm not totally against it. But to propose Ristolainen straight up is laughable.

I bet his next contract Hyman gets paid like a depth piece. He’s a 40 point player even playing in the Leafs top 6. I get he’s a player that does the dirty work the “big 4” doesn’t do but he’s a depth piece. Albeit a like able one.

 

[CatchyTune]

Gee, i sure hope you're right. But he played to a 33 goal 59 point pace this season. That isnt a 40 point player. If he stays healthy over a full season and actually puts up something near 30+30 he should be paid accordingly.

 

[CatchyTune]

I bet his next contract Hyman gets paid like a depth piece. He’s a 40 point player even playing in the Leafs top 6. I get he’s a player that does the dirty work the “big 4” doesn’t do but he’s a depth piece. Albeit a like able one.

Forgot to quote you, see above post.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Gee, i sure hope you're right. But he played to a 33 goal 59 point pace this season. That isnt a 40 point player. If he stays healthy over a full season and actually puts up something near 30+30 he should be paid accordingly.

He shot 19+% though. I like Hyman, nothing against him, but I’d consider anything over 40 points bonus money.

 

[CatchyTune]

He shot 19+% though. I like Hyman, nothing against him, but I’d consider anything over 40 points bonus money.

He obviously benefits points wise from playing with Matthews/Marner, but those 2 also benefit from the things he does.

He is obviously more of a 40 point player. I think his shooting% is so high because pretty much all of his goals are tips/tap-ins. But if the puts up big numbers him and his agent will point to comparables.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Who does this guy think he's dealing with? Stan Bowman?

No one even mentioned Chicago

 

[TS Quint]

No one even mentioned Chicago

Thats ok. Clearly over your head. It's was about the description given.

 

[SnizzNasty88]

Johnsson and a 3rd for Risto let’s get it done.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Johnsson and a 3rd for Risto let’s get it done.

That's not enough

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Johnsson and a 3rd for Risto let’s get it done.

Kapanen and a 3rd might. Before you say “overpay”, realize that Johnsson is coming from an injury so there’s questions. Kapanen isn’t. Yes both are 2L/3L people. But one isn’t a question mark.

I’m saying this from a viewpoint of being a GM. And not being the Sabres GM. Just one in general. I’d rather take out the questions.

 

[Fogelhund]

I liked Hainsey but he should NEVER have been on the top pair

Which is pretty much why that poster suggested that you don’t understand the impact of such a player.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Which is pretty much why that poster suggested that you don’t understand the impact of such a player.

I don't care what the poster suggests 37 or 38 year old Ron Hainsey should not have been on the top pair in any ideal situation

 

[Mick Jagr]

it would have to be kerfoot + johnsson that would probably be have to go back in the deal to make it work out cap wise, and i wouldn't give up those two for risto, so no bueno

At some point, I expect both of these guys to be dealt. Maybe even this summer. Kerfoot is a dime a dozen. Replaceable and not that impressive last year.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

At some point, I expect both of these guys to be dealt. Maybe even this summer. Kerfoot is a dime a dozen. Replaceable and not that impressive last year.

I don't know if they both go this summer but eventually yes, especially Johnsson because Mikehyev would just take his spot full time.

Kerfoot would be slightly tougher because the depth at center isn't the same as it is on the wing.

If the Leafs do anything right it's develop or find wingers.

Center isn't the same

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I have a feeling that Leaf fans would generally consider Risto untouchable if he was ever traded to them. Especially seeing his analytics would greatly improve on a team that isn’t a Springfield Tire Fire.

That's why I ZERO stock into his advanced stats, because he has been on Buffalo and they have been bad since before he was drafted

 

[MarkusKetterer]

That's why I ZERO stock into his advanced stats, because he has been on Buffalo and they have been bad since before he was drafted

And we will still be. At least we’re consistent!!

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

And we will still be. At least we’re consistent!!

That much is true you guys are the most consistent team in the NHL

 

[MarkusKetterer]

That much is true you guys are the most consistent team in the NHL

That should go in our rafters

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

That should go in our rafters

That comes in 2022 when you set the record for longest playoff drought.

 

[Fogelhund]

I don't care what the poster suggests 37 or 38 year old Ron Hainsey should not have been on the top pair in any ideal situation

..and yet, Rielly had his best year, BY FAR, paired with Hainsey, both offensively, and defensively. Think about why that might the case, at least just for a little bit.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

..and yet, Rielly had his best year, BY FAR, paired with Hainsey, both offensively, and defensively. Think about why that might the case, at least just for a little bit.

Because he's Morgan Rielly and he's an elite talent

 

[Fogelhund]

Because he's Morgan Rielly and he's an elite talent

and now, it's completely transparent, as to why your judgement of D, and what the Leafs need is.... well, incredibly flawed, would be about as polite as one could say it.