Recalled/Assigned: Riley Sheahan

[Henkka]

A few years ago I saw someone compare Sheahan to Getzlaf.

They are similar, expect that Sheahan does not know what the word "playmaking" means.

 

[Henkka]

Jurco-Datsyuk-Alfie
Tatar-Andersson-Nyquist

But let's face it, that's not in Babcock's DNA. It'd be pleasantly surprised if we got to see that top 6.

Why not? We have seen those lines already in different games, made by Babcock.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

Why not? We have seen those lines already in different games, made by Babcock.

For what, a few shifts?

He'll keep the top line in tact but he doesn't keep Tatar and Nyquist together for long. Even when they were great together with Franzen for a few shifts he'd only throw then out there occasionally. Instead he'll probably keep Bertuzzi as the 2nd line "net front presence" or whatever the blank that means.

 

[Vladdy84]

For what, a few shifts?

He'll keep the top line in tact but he doesn't keep Tatar and Nyquist together for long. Even when they were great together with Franzen for a few shifts he'd only throw then out there occasionally. Instead he'll probably keep Bertuzzi as the 2nd line "net front presence" or whatever the blank that means.

I'd like to know how many goals have resulted from the "net front" player.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I'd like to know how many goals have resulted from the "net front" player.

More than you think and that is because we are a pretty poor transition team so that factors into it as well. In the current NHL it is pretty hard to beat the goalie with out net-drive or a net-front presence. Babcock can be an absolute slave to this concept though, but net-front presence is very important. It just should not be the be all end all.

 

[Chance on Chance]

I'd like to know how many goals have resulted from the "net front" player.

Babs is too rigid with some stuff

 

[newfy]

Could you please state why?
I didn't have chance to watch any AHL game. So my opinion is purely based on reading material I find online.

Ferraro has been hot lately but hes been playing more wing anyways. Ferraros speed and grit makes me like more than Sheahan personally. He plays bigger than he is

 

[drw02]

I'd like to see the Wings maybe try Tatar at center for a game or two. He'll have a lot to learn but he might be a better option than putting Andersson in the top 6. Tats has been winning those draws on the PP, worth a shot imo....don't have much to lose at this point.

Jurco-Pav-Alfie
Nyquist-Tatar-Bertuzzi
Miller-Sheahan-Eaves
Glendening-Andy-cleary

 

[Kronwalled55]

It would be great if this team wasn't as slow as molasses. Tatar and Eaves? That's about it.

 

[Chip39]

Cleary Bert and Anderson are the only ones you could call slow.

 

[Frk It]

It would be great if this team wasn't as slow as molasses. Tatar and Eaves? That's about it.

Nyquist is faster than both those guys.

How about Kronwall? Helm? Dekeyser? Smith?

We have some skaters dude.

 

[Kronwalled55]

Nyquist is faster than both those guys.

How about Kronwall? Helm? Dekeyser? Smith?

We have some skaters dude.

Helm is out, and defensemen hardly showcase speed unless they're going from end to end

I'll give you Nyquist, but the rest...

Datsyuk isn't a burner, but he makes up for it with his defense and stick handling
Alfredsson has good wheels for a 41 year old, but certainly is not a burner.
Bertuzzi - Slow
Franzen (out) - Slow
Andersson - Slow
Miller - Average
Glendening - Average
Cleary - Slow
Jurco - Not sure yet, looked pretty quick
Sheahan - Average/slow
Samuelsson - Slow

It matters when you're playing dump and chase... But getting beat to most pucks and losing battles. They're icing what they can with injuries, but you can't possibly think this team is quicker than even 1/3 of the league. It shows on most nights.

 

[Frk It]

Helm is out, and defensemen hardly showcase speed unless they're going from end to end

I'll give you Nyquist, but the rest...

Datsyuk isn't a burner, but he makes up for it with his defense and stick handling
Alfredsson has good wheels for a 41 year old, but certainly is not a burner.
Bertuzzi - Slow
Franzen (out) - Slow
Andersson - Slow
Miller - Average
Glendening - Average
Cleary - Slow
Jurco - Not sure yet, looked pretty quick
Sheahan - Average/slow
Samuelsson - Slow

It matters when you're playing dump and chase... But getting beat to most pucks and losing battles. They're icing what they can with injuries, but you can't possibly think this team is quicker than even 1/3 of the league. It shows on most nights.

Okay fair enough.

We have some guys that can skate. Problem is the slow guys we have are REAL SLOW.

Cleary, Bert, Andersson. Guys are legit snails.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Helm is out, and defensemen hardly showcase speed unless they're going from end to end

I'll give you Nyquist, but the rest...

Datsyuk isn't a burner, but he makes up for it with his defense and stick handling
Alfredsson has good wheels for a 41 year old, but certainly is not a burner.
Bertuzzi - Slow
Franzen (out) - Slow
Andersson - Slow
Miller - Average
Glendening - Average
Cleary - Slow
Jurco - Not sure yet, looked pretty quick
Sheahan - Average/slow
Samuelsson - Slow

It matters when you're playing dump and chase... But getting beat to most pucks and losing battles. They're icing what they can with injuries, but you can't possibly think this team is quicker than even 1/3 of the league. It shows on most nights.

Sheahan isn't slow, when factoring in his size he is actually quite fast. I would say both Sheahan and Ferraro are better skaters than Tatar for instance a guy you listed as fast.

Sheahan's bigger problem is that he doesn't engage physically all the time when he is out there humming around. He doesn't have to take the body all the time but he should take it more and he would be a pretty big hitter because of his speed and size if he made that choice.

Jurco's biggest gains since turning pro have been in skating, so yeah I think at this point he is above average, for a chunk of last season early Sheahan and Jurco were linemates and Sheahan was worlds faster, Jurco has really put in a lot of work there.

Everyone loves the Andersson chemistry, but for a part of the lockout last year after his arrest and when Andersson was down to injury they put Sheahan with Nyquist and Tatar which really in a lot of ways was a much tougher ask on the opposition and worked well together. Because he can actually play at their pace, it made them lethal in transition.

 

[BeersHockey]

Ferraro has been hot lately but hes been playing more wing anyways. Ferraros speed and grit makes me like more than Sheahan personally. He plays bigger than he is

I agree. I want to see him get a shot because I think he could excel or show us pretty quickly he has no business on the big club.

 

[BeersHockey]

I'd like to see the Wings maybe try Tatar at center for a game or two. He'll have a lot to learn but he might be a better option than putting Andersson in the top 6. Tats has been winning those draws on the PP, worth a shot imo....don't have much to lose at this point.

Jurco-Pav-Alfie
Nyquist-Tatar-Bertuzzi
Miller-Sheahan-Eaves
Glendening-Andy-cleary

Playing center is much more than winning draws, especially given what Babcock expects in the defensive zone. I think Gus might be able to pull it off, but I don't see NHL center in Tats.

 

[Henkka]

Everyone loves the Andersson chemistry, but for a part of the lockout last year after his arrest and when Andersson was down to injury they put Sheahan with Nyquist and Tatar which really in a lot of ways was a much tougher ask on the opposition and worked well together. Because he can actually play at their pace, it made them lethal in transition.

Would mind these either:

Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Alfie, 6'3 - 5'11 - 5'11
Jurco - Sheahan - Nyquist, 6'2 - 6'2 - 5'11
Miller - Andersson - Tatar, 6'2 - 6'2 - 5'10

Then there would those working chemitries in each TOP9 line. Bert with Pavel, Jurco with Sheahan, and Andersson with Tatar. There would nice mix of size in each line.

 

[drw02]

Playing center is much more than winning draws, especially given what Babcock expects in the defensive zone. I think Gus might be able to pull it off, but I don't see NHL center in Tats.

Yeah I realize that...why I said he'll have a lot to learn...but lets not kid ourselves he's a professional hockey player, not like he's completely oblivious as to how to play center.

 

[LeighDx59]

I really wish it was Landon Ferraro, I think he should have gotten his shot finally. Hoping Sheahan shows us something tomorrow.

 

[NyquistIsMyGod*]

Playing center is much more than winning draws, especially given what Babcock expects in the defensive zone. I think Gus might be able to pull it off, but I don't see NHL center in Tats.

Agreed. I was thinking that there was a possibility of Nyquist moving to the middle position but would have to play with a defensive forward. Like,

Miller-Nyquist-Alfredsson
Jurco-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi
Tatar-Andersson-Eaves
Cleary-Glendening-Sheahan

Helm is out, and defensemen hardly showcase speed unless they're going from end to end

I'll give you Nyquist, but the rest...

Datsyuk isn't a burner, but he makes up for it with his defense and stick handling
Alfredsson has good wheels for a 41 year old, but certainly is not a burner.
Bertuzzi - Slow
Franzen (out) - Slow
Andersson - Slow
Miller - Average
Glendening - Average
Cleary - Slow
Jurco - Not sure yet, looked pretty quick
Sheahan - Average/slow
Samuelsson - Slow

It matters when you're playing dump and chase... But getting beat to most pucks and losing battles. They're icing what they can with injuries, but you can't possibly think this team is quicker than even 1/3 of the league. It shows on most nights.

Johan Franzen is extremely fast when he's actually skating. Sadly, this rarely happens. When hes out, and when he's backchecking, he's honestly a horse.

As for Tatar's skating. I think you're overrating it.

 

[BeersHockey]

Yeah I realize that...why I said he'll have a lot to learn...but lets not kid ourselves he's a professional hockey player, not like he's completely oblivious as to how to play center.

Tell that to Patrick Kane and Taylor Hall.

 

[Detroit Sports*]

how many 24/7 episodes will their be? and when is the next 1?

 

[Boomhower]

Bah, didn't see this thread.

Just posted in Nyquist injury thread that Ferraro was the best possible call up IMO.
Disappointing... with No Helm and Nyquist we need speed from somewhere!

 

[Soft Rock Renegade]

this is a big game tonight for sheahan. he's essentially getting bumped up to second line duties, playing with a HOF right winger. i'd expect him to get PP and PK duties again as well.

another solid effort should get him past glendening on the depth chart. i could also see him passing being wavier exempt will make it hard to stick when everyone is healthy, but if he makes a good enough impression he could be in the mix for fourth line center duties in the playoffs. seems like babs prefers him over anderson just by looking at the lines and last games icetime. i thought he looked great on saturday, really hoping he comes through with a big game tonight.

 

[Henkka]

how many 24/7 episodes will their be? and when is the next 1?

3 episodes before the Classic. And next one is at Next saturday.