Post-Game Talk: Requiem for the 2023 NHL Draft

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

My take : this board is salty af and will look dumb in a few months/years

Heard this 1 the last 11 drafts.

Martin Lapointe sounds like ha has a low second round pick level IQ, its pretty sad.. no passion, no substance..

He's a friend of Bergevin, what did you expect

 

[417]

The delusional idea that this organization has actually been competent for 30 years? The belief that our fans are smarter than everyone else? The fact that some of our fans vastly overrate all of our middling prospects and players on the main boards? Our arrogance despite the fact we haven't accomplished anything in 30 years?

Those things ringing a bell?

No... mostly how we seem determined to ruin the most important moment of our 1st round picks lives by forcing our own insecurities on them because we’re scarred by previous regimes inadequacies and bad decisions.

That and the huge sense of entitlement we have with this team.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

If Reinbacher doesn't end up being a Pietrangelo

f*** all yall

And if he does we are fine? Gotta give it a few years to evaluate at least huh? How about 4?

Oh boy, it looks like you and I are going to have quite the conversation one way or another on June 29th 2027!

 

[Team_Spirit]

Rumors are the Habs did the same with Florian.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

And if he does we are fine? Gotta give it a few years to evaluate at least huh? How about 4?

Oh boy, it looks like you and I are going to have quite the conversation one way or another on June 29th 2027!

Heard this since 2012 also . So elite talent.

 

[John B]

After trading the late first rounder and their only second rounder, I wasn't expecting much from the middle rounds. Fowler helps the depth of the goalie prospects. Passing on Lipinski and Ciernik in the 4th round and Cam Allen in the 5th is disappointing.

Would have been nice to see some trades, but there weren't many players traded today. Sucks that the Habs didn't get Bailey and the 2nd rounder from the Isles.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I expected getting rid at least of 1-2 vets :

Edmundaon
Savard
Dvorak
Hoffman
Armia
Anderson


I don't even know what are we rebuilding exactly, we are using the same material

 

[Gustave]

So, the Rangers blueprint can't be used here, which scratches gifts form above like Panarin and Fox. Getting PLD's of the world are out too, it costs too much in young players whom we are trying to accumulate and command probably too high a salary.

So, high end players will need to be drafted. Only, some are hard to project and don't necessarily fit the need vs the risk equation.

Also, luck isn't on our side like Hawks and Leafs who tank in the great years to tank. We couldn't get a lottery win when needed, like Jersey.

Our blueprint is add to what we have in the age range 20-23. And draft for need to complement said age range.

Tell me if I'm out of bounds.

I forgot: goalie wise; you keep developing Monty to see if he has it in him, and draft good ones that are 18 and will come of age in 5 years, which is normal for a goalie to start spreading their wings.

 

[Canadienna]

I mean it's all relative right?

I don't think we did as well as we could have (and we'll see in a few years) but I still think we came out of it with some good pieces.

I'm bothered by the disdain for elite offensive talent this organization seems to show. I was hoping the new management group might be able to flip the script but alas, they passed on a golden opportunity to do so.

For me this draft is a big test of faith for the new group, I disagree wholly with what they've done, but I'll continue to be patient to see if their vision comes to fruition.

Go Habs Go

 

[sansabri]

i remember when the board loved the 2012 draft we had and man did that return a whole lot of nothing. i'm giving this one lots of time

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I'm good with people thinking this was an F draft. Low expectations usually work out in our favour. The "A" grade drafts have usually been gawd awful.

I like all 3 goalie picks.

Fowler was definitely a good target at Round 3. He had an outstanding 2nd half of season in USHL, and is going to Boston College next year. He is explosive in his lateral movement which is Primeau's big problem (too slow going post-to-post, and high-to-low). Miller had a strong year backing up Rousseau in Quebec. He'll be a #1 next season for them. Russian kid looks promising, and we hold his rights indefinitely.

Filip Eriksson is a great boom or bust prospect. He only played 13 games this year due to a scaphoid fracture. His skating is beautiful! His acceleration is really something. That's all I remember about him. He's playing SHL next year for Vaxjo.

The younger Xhekaj, Kind of shocked at that pick! NHL upside is Keegan Kolesar type. Need / brotherly pick. At worst, he's an AHL tough guy, which we also need. We're too small in Laval.

Know nothing about Bogdan & Harris. Interesting stats.

Mittelstadt I had a potential 7th round pick in both 2021 & 2022 drafts. This kid ends up creating offense at whatever level he's at. A play creator, but small & gets pushed around.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Every time there's a trade or a draft, we get this reaction from people who think they know better, just to come back a year or 2 later and tell us they will eat crow. Last year was the Dach trade and not picking (W)right. This year it's the draft and Newhook which are both too early to judge. Well this year we're fresh out of crow bitches and you'll get called out for your judgmental attitudes

And everytime there's a bad pick or a bad trade, there's a bunch of people defending it tooth n nail just like you're doing. They get to eat a lot of crow too. Stop acting like you know better. Nevermind the complete lack of self-awareness at the end of your last sentence. Holy crap, the irony.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Just massively underwhelming.

The year plus hype for this draft coupled with new management expectations from fans was going to be a let down no matter what, but who could’ve predicted this, the least sexiest draft outcome? Yeesh.

Kent’s former client better be worth the price he paid for him. Hopefully he’s not fond of Darnell Nurse still.

There's definitely the possibility of Reinbacher Darnell Nursing unfortunately. Their prospect profiles are actually pretty eerily similar. I'd say Reinbacher's more sound defensively though.

No... mostly how we seem determined to ruin the most important moment of our 1st round picks lives by forcing our own insecurities on them because we’re scarred by previous regimes inadequacies and bad decisions.

That and the huge sense of entitlement we have with this team.

While I disagree with everything you said, it also has nothing to do with why other fanbases would dislike us, since it's something we do internally. That's just you projecting your own dislikes onto other people.

As to our sense of entitlement, you're damned right we're entitled. We're paying customers, and we're entitled to a good product. If the product sucks, we can voice our displeasure and not buy it anymore. That's our right as consumers.

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Hope Rein become a top pair D, maybe the future partner for Hutson.

But still piss off and will be for à long time concerning Michkov

 

[abo9]

Every time there's a trade or a draft, we get this reaction from people who think they know better, just to come back a year or 2 later and tell us they will eat crow. Last year was the Dach trade and not picking (W)right. This year it's the draft and Newhook which are both too early to judge. Well this year we're fresh out of crow bitches and you'll get called out for your judgmental attitudes

HuGo moves are mostly too early to tell good/bad.

But who has "eaten crow" in the last 10-15 years? The team is at the lowest it's been, I don't think many people "ate crow" recently lol

 

[Wateredgarden]

im still waiting for sebastian collberg

I still have hopes of seeing Dalton Thrower feeding Bozon on the PP.

 

[SwiftyHab]

I don't even know what are we rebuilding exactly, we are using the same material

 

[Guy Larose]

And everytime there's a bad pick or a bad trade, there's a bunch of people defending it tooth n nail just like you're doing. They get to eat a lot of crow too. Stop acting like you know better. Nevermind the complete lack of self-awareness at the end of your last sentence. Holy crap, the irony.

I'm not defending anything and there's no irony. If you read my message properly, it is a message board afterall, it's more calling out all the whiners every time management does something, just for them to get a get out of jail free card by saying "I'll eat crow". This fanbase is toxic at the best of times and we're hated everywhere now. Matheson trade was the same as well. Tons of people hated on it, as usual. How's that looking now?

 

[Twisted Sinister]

HuGo moves are mostly too early to tell good/bad.

But who has "eaten crow" in the last 10-15 years? The team is at the lowest it's been, I don't think many people "ate crow" recently lol

The rose-colored-glasses crowd wouldn't be able to function without delusions. There's no way to call this team successful at anything by any metric.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I expected getting rid at least of 1-2 vets :

Edmundaon
Savard
Dvorak
Hoffman
Armia
Anderson


I don't even know what are we rebuilding exactly, we are using the same material

We are rebuilding from awful to mediocrity. That's why.

 

[Guy Larose]

HuGo moves are mostly too early to tell good/bad.

But who has "eaten crow" in the last 10-15 years? The team is at the lowest it's been, I don't think many people "ate crow" recently lol

You see it in the trade threads all the time....

 

[hockeyguy2022]

LOL Hughes is lucky Bergevin left Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, and Mailloux. Otherwise omg lol

We are rebuilding from awful to mediocrity. That's why.

 

[WentWughes]

“Hey Kent, get the kids to all come in to the boardroom this afternoon, I know how I will figure out who our guy is.” -Bobrov probably

 

[Lucky Luke]

Is that Fowler?

 

[Guy Larose]

The rose-colored-glasses crowd wouldn't be able to function without delusions. There's no way to call this team successful at anything by any metric.

Who's called this team successful? We're just saying you complain at everything.