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Howboutthempanthers said:
How do we know this?
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It's nothing against the city, the coaches or teammates. He's just tired of losing and can't take it anymore.

I've heard him speaking here in Montreal to local medias during the past 2 summers and it's easy to read between the lines: there's is no he's going to waste his prime years playing for a losing organization.

Can't blame him. On the other hand, I don't like how he sounds. I mean...he's never talking like he's part of the solution. He doesn't talk like a leader.
 

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sinDer said:
It's nothing against the city, the coaches or teammates. He's just tired of losing and can't take it anymore.

I've heard him speaking here in Montreal to local medias during the past 2 summers and it's easy to read between the lines: there's is no he's going to waste his prime years playing for a losing organization.

Can't blame him. On the other hand, I don't like how he sounds. I mean...he's never talking like he's part of the solution. He doesn't talk like a leader.
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Yeah, he could leave the Panthers and go to a winning situation like the one in Montreal, right?
 
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I've seen Huby hanging his head on the bench this year and I've never seen him do that before. I don't think it's a secret at this point he's fed up with losing and I could see the complete failure this year, after huge expectations, be the last nail in the coffin for him. And I don't blame him if that's the case. This year has been another disaster after a long line of other disasters that he's seen with this organization.

The good news is he's probably at his peak right now and will fetch a huge return if traded. Three more years at 5.9 million cap hit and a top 10-15 winger in the game.
 
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I think the expanded playoff is going to be a huge tell to whose fed up with losing or not. Whether the Panthers even lose or not is yet to be seen.
 
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sinDer said:
It's nothing against the city, the coaches or teammates. He's just tired of losing and can't take it anymore.

I've heard him speaking here in Montreal to local medias during the past 2 summers and it's easy to read between the lines: there's is no he's going to waste his prime years playing for a losing organization.

Can't blame him. On the other hand, I don't like how he sounds. I mean...he's never talking like he's part of the solution. He doesn't talk like a leader.
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That's the impression I got... This might not be a fair comparison, but I think it is telling that Barky and Ekky stayed in Florida for quarantine while Huberdeau left...he just seems less excited/invested recently. Totally fair: he is a superstar who is not treated as one either here or in Canada. Like, I noticed that most 2022 Olympic roster projections for Team Canada have him on the top line, but the general respect is not there.

With that in mind, maybe a bit of winning will help, but I am not sure. It is part of the reason why I want to make sure that Barky is happy as possible with who we acquire so he stays engaged

sinDer said:
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What has Montreal to do with it?
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You're from Quebec: either you want to steal our Francophone players or...you want to steal our club ;)
 
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That's the impression I got... This might not be a fair comparison, but I think it is telling that Barky and Ekky stayed in Florida for quarantine while Huberdeau left...he just seems less excited/invested recently. Totally fair: he is a superstar who is not treated as one either here or in Canada. Like, I noticed that most 2022 Olympic roster projections for Team Canada have him on the top line, but the general respect is not there.
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Lots of players around the league left to their summer/family area, so we can't single out Huberdeau.

I actually think Barkov stayed because he's talked often over the years about becoming more independent, learning to cook properly himself, etc. His mom was there the first 2-3 years, then he's had a revolving door of girlfriends around for most of the time. No childhood friends to bother him like he'd have in Tampere, so he can fully focus on the things he wants to do. :dunno:
 
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SoupyFIN said:
Lots of players around the league left to their summer/family area, so we can't single out Huberdeau.

I actually think Barkov stayed because he's talked often over the years about becoming more independent, learning to cook properly himself, etc. His mom was there the first 2-3 years, then he's had a revolving door of girlfriends around for most of the time. No childhood friends to bother him like he'd have in Tampere, so he can fully focus on the things he wants to do. :dunno:
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The Jagr life/effect
 
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SoupyFIN said:
Lots of players around the league left to their summer/family area, so we can't single out Huberdeau.

I actually think Barkov stayed because he's talked often over the years about becoming more independent, learning to cook properly himself, etc. His mom was there the first 2-3 years, then he's had a revolving door of girlfriends around for most of the time. No childhood friends to bother him like he'd have in Tampere, so he can fully focus on the things he wants to do. :dunno:
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I think it's fair to say that. I wasn't sure if I should post that comment, but I do feel there is some revealed preference though. [Unrelatedly do we know if Huby is back in South Florida? I haven't seen anything]
 

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That doesn't mean he wants to specifically go to Montreal.
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Maybe, but it’s not like other options were specifically offered.

The bigger point being, is Huberdeau a top player or not? If he is, he’ll stop whining and work on winning. The differences between teams and players and indeed every play on ice are between small and tiny. But the difference makers take those small differences and make them look bigger than they are. Make themselves more dominant than they are on paper.

If Hubie can’t bring a winning attitude to the situation he’s ended up in, where will he do so? If he says that he needs a “real team”, that means he’s admitting he’s not a difference maker. That’s the bigger point. My snark about Montreal was really about this. Always looking for greener grass? Who would have wanted to be traded to the Blues on January 1, 2019? Nobody.

Can the Panthers win the Stanley Cup this year? Yes. Of course they CAN. Will they? Hubie is one of the key players who has to answer that.
 
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If this core can't make it through the 1st round (play-in and 1st) time to trade away another core piece. I'd offer up Ekblad or Huberdeau.
 
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