Realistic Trade Proposals III

[Tripod]

The difference there is that we got Voracek and Simmonds in those trades, and they were already established NHL players.

Very good point.

 

[Curufinwe]

When will we see the next trade?

In the next 12 days.

 

[explosive skating]

This Trade Simmonds Because He Will Be Banged Up And Declining When Flyers Start To Contend hysteria is annoying me. He has to decline? C'mon. He will be a beast in his mid 30s and they gonna need such a special player in playoff runs.

 

[Dabest]

This Trade Simmonds Because He Will Be Banged Up And Declining When Flyers Start To Contend hysteria is annoying me. He has to decline? C'mon. He will be a beast in his mid 30s and they gonna need such a special player in playoff runs.

A beast when he's 35?

 

[explosive skating]

A beast when he's 35?

Why not. Look at Tomas Holmstrom's seasons when he was 32-36. Simmer is a stud, he will not fall of a cliff when he hits 30, such assumption is too pessimistic.

 

[bb12]

A beast when he's 35?

If it was up to you we would trade every player on the team over 25 for future assets and ice a team of ECLs so in 6 years when they mature we will have a chance

Learn from Edmonton

 

[Lord Defect]

I'm perfectly fine with trading Simmonds if the return is a massive overpayment. Anything short of that is a waste.

 

[deadhead]

Well, I'm perfect fine with trading ANYONE for a massive overpayment.
I don't know if Simmonds will be playing as well at age 36, but I'd make a bet he'll be close to peak out to age 32 or so and maybe a little older.

 

[kingjmusicman]

5 players on this current roster you keep, the rest is open to negotiation. Only one iffy on not knowing what to do with is Mr. Schenn.

 

[Breeze 44]

Why not. Look at Tomas Holmstrom's seasons when he was 32-36. Simmer is a stud, he will not fall of a cliff when he hits 30, such assumption is too pessimistic.

perfect example...winner ...winner, Lorenzo pizza dinner!!!

 

[1865]

This Trade Simmonds Because He Will Be Banged Up And Declining When Flyers Start To Contend hysteria is annoying me. He has to decline? C'mon. He will be a beast in his mid 30s and they gonna need such a special player in playoff runs.

It's not a definite, but it's possible...bordering on likely. I'm all for cashing in when the value is there. Bear in mind if that criteria is filled, we'd get one hell of a return.

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

a lot of the "trade simmer now at his peak" stuff makes perfect logical sense to me but even the thought of this team without him is crushing...his combination of skill, effort level and toughness are almost irreplaceable. just seeing him in a different jersey would surely cause my mighty heart to break.

 

[flyershockey]

Simmonds is an identity player on this roster. You don't trade those guys for futures because you might only get a couple of quality years out of him when your team is ready to compete. Even if he's not here for their entire window of contention, he'll still be instrumental in the process of getting this team to contender status.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Simmonds is an identity player on this roster. You don't trade those guys for futures because you might only get a couple of quality years out of him when your team is ready to compete. Even if he's not here for their entire window of contention, he'll still be instrumental in the process of getting this team to contender status.

Bingo.

The return could be downright fantastic and it would still rip my heart right out.

 

[Grare]

How about we keep Simmonds & add a similar player to him in Lucic if he hits FA

There's our LW we need

Simmonds, Gudas, Morin, Lucic, Ghoul would be hilarious

 

[LI Fly Guy]

Bingo.

The return could be downright fantastic and it would still rip my heart right out.

Even if he was washed up I'd still want him here to win a cup with this team. Feel same way about Hartnell. Still chaps my ass he's gone.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

How about we keep Simmonds & add a similar player to him in Lucic if he hits FA

There's our LW we need

Simmonds, Gudas, Morin, Lucic, Ghoul would be hilarious

He'll want too long of a contract and too much money

 

[Grare]

He'll want too long of a contract and too much money

Don't all FA's? Lol

We could manage, would be an exciting season but I'll stop day dreaming zZzZ

 

[Bob Clarke Fan Club]

This Trade Simmonds Because He Will Be Banged Up And Declining When Flyers Start To Contend hysteria is annoying me. He has to decline? C'mon. He will be a beast in his mid 30s and they gonna need such a special player in playoff runs.

Agreed, although saying he'll be a beast in his mid 30's is just as much a guess as saying he'll decline. If Simmer could bring a huge overpayment, it'd definitely be worthwhile to take a look at. I'm not so sure that the flyers can't be a contender season after next. I think sometimes we underestimate the flyers and overestimate the rest of the league on these boards.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Don't all FA's? Lol

We could manage, would be an exciting season but I'll stop day dreaming zZzZ

Maybe, but Hexy can't afford to really toss around large contracts with term if he actually intends to build a proper defensive core. I'd rather not see one of Sanheim/Provorov sniped off because we ended up in a cap bind down the road.

 

[flyersfan187]

Why not. Look at Tomas Holmstrom's seasons when he was 32-36. Simmer is a stud, he will not fall of a cliff when he hits 30, such assumption is too pessimistic.

Exactly, the guy is one of the best players around the net and that will not change in the future. He will lose some of his physical play with his fighting and such but not his net presence.

 

[Broad Street Elite]

This whole trade or do not trade [Insert Player] (in this case Simmer) is silly without context imo. ANY Player is tradable if the return is right. Asinine to say definitely yes or definitely no without knowing what you are being offered. He's not a player you shop, but you listen on anyone...

 

[beetee15]

PK Subban Voice "no you cannot trade Wayne Simmonds"

seriously though, he isnt the piece you trade. Not on his contract and not with what he brings to the team. Like I have stated before, once this team is a playoff team "probably next season" Simmonds will be HUGE in the playoffs, he is a clutch guy.

 

[Tripod]

He'll want too long of a contract and too much money

SEE....THIS IS THE ISSUE.

Lucic will want too long a contract for too much money, yet will start that contract at age 28. And few people want to sign him.

Yet Simmonds will start his next contract at age 31 and will ALSO want too much money and for too long. And people are justifying re-signing him.

And that is due to loyalty and being a fan of Simminds...which we all are.

Trying to justify re-signing Simmonds while saying Lucic will want too much and for too long contradicts each other. Unless you think Somminds is going to sign a 3 year extension at 4.5 million....which he won't.

Simmonds will be looking for his big payout that he did not get thru his prime years with us. He will be looking for a contract that will be 6+ per year. And even though I think he will still be productive, I don't think he will ever be productive enough for that money in his age 31-35 seasons.

 

[Dabest]

How long do you think Voracek and G will be able to perform like they are now? 32?