RD Adam Boqvist, London Knights - 8th overall 2018

[RememberTheRoar]

Yeah but for how long can they do that?

Let's say that's the lineup starting in 2020-21 season. Keith has another 2 seasons on his contract and Seabs has 3. You can't keep scratching them for 2-3 years. Unless we get a compliance buyout for Seabs and just deal with Keith as a bottom pairing guy which he should still be able to handle at that point..

The cap goes up and the only major contract you need to add is DeBrincat’s. Moving Anisimov and Manning expiring almost pays for that.

You can afford to scratch Keith and Seabrook if all of your top 4 are on ELCs.

Ideally you’d just move Keith now and give him one last chance at another Cup elsewhere, but I understand the opposition to moving Keith

I think our D won’t include Keith or Seabrook when this team is ready to truly compete again, so that’s why I have said move Keith now. I think BK and I are the only ones on board with that

 

[LDF]

Yeah Keith's contract isn't egregious. Even if he's bottom pairing at the end of his career, the cap hit isn't bad. Seabs tho...oh boy. I desperately hope we get that buyout.

lets go with the idea of discussing Keith. i am sure he know he can't perform as a top pairing d-man, if he hasn't really figure it out already.

but i can see posters/fans accepting his drop to the 3rd pairing in future yrs and as you mention his contract will have been earned and accepted by all.

as i once mention, Seabs, while not berating him for his contract, i can't see that length and for that cost. it just stick in my crawl.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

lets go with the idea of discussing Keith. i am sure he know he can't perform as a top pairing d-man, if he hasn't really figure it out already.

but i can see posters/fans accepting his drop to the 3rd pairing in future yrs and as you mention his contract will have been earned and accepted by all.

as i once mention, Seabs, while not berating him for his contract, i can't see that length and for that cost. it just stick in my crawl.

Seabrook’s contract is bad, full stop. There’s no justifying it. (Though not the NHL’s worst)

It’s going to be a thorn in this team’s side for a long time

 

[ClydeLee]

Seabrook’s contract is bad, full stop. There’s no justifying it. (Though not the NHL’s worst)

It’s going to be a thorn in this team’s side for a long time

Not if the CBA is ended after next season and in the new CBA deal a compliance buyout is granted. And I'm sure all the teams that blundered in 2016 with cotracts will push to get it.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Not if the CBA is ended after next season and in the new CBA deal a compliance buyout is granted. And I'm sure all the teams that blundered in 2016 with cotracts will push to get it.

That doesn’t mean his contact isn’t bad, just means you have a “get out of jail free” card.

 

[Kevin Musto]

The cap goes up and the only major contract you need to add is DeBrincat’s. Moving Anisimov and Manning expiring almost pays for that.

You can afford to scratch Keith and Seabrook if all of your top 4 are on ELCs.

Ideally you’d just move Keith now and give him one last chance at another Cup elsewhere, but I understand the opposition to moving Keith

I think our D won’t include Keith or Seabrook when this team is ready to truly compete again, so that’s why I have said move Keith now. I think BK and I are the only ones on board with that

I'm with you on moving Keith now. He has to waive his NMC though so he'd have to be okay with it.

 

[LDF]

I'm with you on moving Keith now. He has to waive his NMC though so he'd have to be okay with it.

i don't know, i rather do it with Seabs first

 

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

I'm with you on moving Keith now. He has to waive his NMC though so he'd have to be okay with it.

No way. His cap hit is super reasonable considering that, at the worst, he's a second pairing guy and can mentor the horde of young d coming in soon.

There's plenty of issues here, but if we go gung ho on replacing our entire D, it's going to be a lot worse than it is now.

 

[LDF]

Well Seabs and Kane are not the others who looks like crap tonite. that whole line is just bad.

looking at the stats that whole line is a minus 3...... but in my eyes Seabs and Kane looks the worst culpable of the team in the game this nite.

 

[hawksfan50]

2 more goals for Boqvist tonight against Owen Sound...Boqvist now smoking hot hot ..!!!

2nd goal by him was was on the porch where he scored iby moving down low about 4 feet to tgecright off the Owen Sound crease ...great snap shot top shelf.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

2 more goals for Boqvist tonight against Owen Sound...Boqvist now smoking hot hot ..!!!

2nd goal by him was was on the porch where he scored iby moving down low about 4 feet to tgecright off the Owen Sound crease ...great snap shot top shelf.

Is he still a smurf, or smurf no longer?

 

[deytookerjaabs]

This team needs a BULL GOOSE LOONY.

And a move or two.

 

[AmericanDream]

Is he still a smurf, or smurf no longer?

Fiddy now has him somewhere in between a smurf and grown man....

 

[Panzerspitze]

Is he still a smurf, or smurf no longer?

Came here to post this...

 

[Rick C137]

Don’t know if it got posted but this was his primary assist last week in his 3 point game. Just beautiful.

 

[swerdnase]

Eh, I don't know ... he just doesn't wow me. Stars gotta star.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

 

[RayP]

Nice mitts.

 

[Rick C137]

We should trade him to whatever team drafts Brett Leason this year straight up.

Really hoping I don’t need the sarcasm emoji.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

i don't know, i rather do it with Seabs first

Agree I'd prefer to trade Seabrook, but that isn't going to happen with his contact. Keith would still have some value.

 

[LDF]

Agree I'd prefer to trade Seabrook, but that isn't going to happen with his contact. Keith would still have some value.

you know, i still see keith as a viable player in this state of an elder statesmen. i can see, whether this is true or not, as help the young d-men that will be coming in.

 

[ColdSteel2]

you know, i still see keith as a viable player in this state of an elder statesmen. i can see, whether this is true or not, as help the young d-men that will be coming in.

Agreed, Keith is still valuable to us and if any player deserves to finish his career here, it is him first and foremost. His play and cheap cap hit were the engine that drove this team to 3 Cups.

In this new phase of his career, he will be a valuable teacher to the young defensemen, especially now that Q is gone and Colliton is coach. And Keith will still be a very good player for us too. He just shouldn’t be playing number 1 type minutes. If you put this guy with one of the speedier young defenders, take him off the PP and keep his minutes in the 18-20 per game range, he’ll start looking like the Keith of old again IMO. And he’ll still outperform his cap hit as always.

 

[LDF]

Agreed, Keith is still valuable to us and if any player deserves to finish his career here, it is him first and foremost. His play and cheap cap hit were the engine that drove this team to 3 Cups.

In this new phase of his career, he will be a valuable teacher to the young defensemen, especially now that Q is gone and Colliton is coach. And Keith will still be a very good player for us too. He just shouldn’t be playing number 1 type minutes. If you put this guy with one of the speedier young defenders, take him off the PP and keep his minutes in the 18-20 per game range, he’ll start looking like the Keith of old again IMO. And he’ll still outperform his cap hit as always.

but do the Bhawks have a better d-men to take over as the #1 type of d-man ??

 

[ColdSteel2]

but do the Bhawks have a better d-men to take over as the #1 type of d-man ??

Not yet, hopefully it is Boqvist.

 

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Agreed, Keith is still valuable to us and if any player deserves to finish his career here, it is him first and foremost. His play and cheap cap hit were the engine that drove this team to 3 Cups.

In this new phase of his career, he will be a valuable teacher to the young defensemen, especially now that Q is gone and Colliton is coach. And Keith will still be a very good player for us too. He just shouldn’t be playing number 1 type minutes. If you put this guy with one of the speedier young defenders, take him off the PP and keep his minutes in the 18-20 per game range, he’ll start looking like the Keith of old again IMO. And he’ll still outperform his cap hit as always.

Agreed, i really think Dunc is just logging too many minutes (and minutes with Seabrook). If we just cut back on his TOI, he'll look a lot better.

Problem is, we don't have one or enough good d men to fill those minutes. So now we rely too heavily on him.

Hopefully joker emerges as a young #1 but he's still so young and inexperienced.