Rank the D-men from 2012 Draft

[landy92mack29]

murray+pouliot will be the best then reinhart+rielly

 

[HanSolo]

murray+pouliot will be the best then reinhart+rielly

Because Maatta, Trouba, and Lindholm are all gonna have horrific accidents that end their careers?

 

[Sojourn]

murray+pouliot will be the best then reinhart+rielly

So the three who are currently the best are just going to drop out of the running entirely? That seems incredibly unlikely.

 

[HanSolo]

Shayne Gostisbehere will be in this conversation in a few years. If the draft were redone today, he'd likely go in the 1st round.

I already have him ahead of a few of the guys taken first round. He's gonna be a solid defender.

 

[JS91]

Wow that's a lot of defenseman taken in the top 15.
What happened to Koekkoek?

Still playing in the A. He's only 20 years old so there's nothing to worry about. Took Hedman until he hit 23 before he started producing on the level he was expected to produce. I could see him getting a shot at playing for the Bolts as soon as next season unless something unexpected happens.

 

[landy92mack29]

So the three who are currently the best are just going to drop out of the running entirely? That seems incredibly unlikely.

murray is better than all of them

 

[Karlsson2Turris*]

Ceci is being criminally underrated here. He should be near the bottom of this list but saying "he doesn't belong in this conversation" means you've never seen him play.

 

[IAmBobo]

Ceci does not belong in this conversation

 

[Ando]

murray is better than all of them

Pull up some facts and then people might believe you.

 

[penguins2946*]

murray+pouliot will be the best then reinhart+rielly

As the leader of the Derrick Pouliot fanclub, you're wrong. He doesn't have nearly a strong enough defensive game to end up the best D in the class. He'll end up the best OFD, but not the best D. I think Trouba and Lindholm end up the 2 best, followed by Rielly and then Maatta.

While Maatta is really good and I'm a huge fan of his, I don't think his upside is as good as the other 3. He doesn't have the raw talent to be up there with those 2. Maatta is really polished already, which is why he looked really good in the last 2 years (he was playing like a top pair D this year), but I don't know how much higher he could go. He's going to be a top pair guy, but I don't see the franchise D potential in him like I see in Rielly, Trouba and Lindholm. I feel similar with Murray.

 

[Kunta Kinte]

Thank God his opinion holds as much weight as yours and mine

IIRC, That was Vincent Damphousse.

 

[MovesLikeJagr68]

In 5+ years it's going to be interesting to see if 2012's class of D-men could be considered better than 2008's. Gonna make a great poll on here in the future.

Doughty, Pietrangelo, Karlsson, Josi, Brodie, Carlson, Bogosian, Hamonic, Voynov, Myers (plus a bunch others who are NHL regulars)

vs

Trouba, Lindholm, Maatta, Murray, Reinhart, Pouliot, Rielly, Ceci, Koekkoek, Dumba55 (and that's only from the 1st round)

Damn son!

 

[winnipegger]

murray is better than all of them

At finding the nearest local hospital, yes. Hands down

 

[Hotlanta]

Rielly is a wild card. Missed an entire development season before his draft, and has only played on weak teams his entire pro career. Maybe minus this year's Leaf team and the short time with the Marlies. Carlyle doesn't give him very much PK or PP time, but he has been know to be great at both in Juniors. His biggest problem that will stop him from scoring in his NHL is his below average shot. However, the points, mainly assists, will come with more PP and 5on5 ice time. That being said, I do believe their is a gap right now between him and Trouba, Lindholm, and somewhat Maata. Murray not so much yet, but will be better then most soon.

 

[Bouboumaster]

At the end of the day, 2012 was a great class.

 

[CH25]

Trouba
Lindholm
Maatta
Murray
Rielly

 

[Duke749]

Think Duckjet and Sojourn said it best. Trouba and Lindholm(who I was hoping for actually. Liked what I had read up on him and just seemed like he could be a great defenseman) followed very closely by Maata and Murray.

Man what a draft for Dmen. Can't believe what it's already put out with more coming. Crazy to have two drafts with so many good and great defensemen so close together.

 

[fmrdh]

Interesting how HF gives Ryan Murray an 8.0, Hampus Lindholm a 7.5 but Olli Maatta an 8.5. Based on their draft position you would think it would be the different.

 

[DearDiary]

Interesting how HF gives Ryan Murray an 8.0, Hampus Lindholm a 7.5 but Olli Maatta an 8.5. Based on their draft position you would think it would be the different.

Full rankings

Maatta 8.5
Rielly 8.5

Trouba 8.0
Murray 8.0
Pouliot 8.0
Dumba 8.0

Lindholm 7.5

Ceci 7.0

 

[Greeneye]

As of now I'd rank them:
Trouba
Lindholm
Maatta
Murray

Reilly
Ceci
Pouliot

Offensively Pouliot is looking special, if he provides even ok defense he'll be one the top guys from this draft.

 

[Sojourn]

Lindholm caught a number of people by surprise. HF didn't even have him in their top 50 either of the two years after the draft. By the time they probably realized how good he was, he had graduated.

 

[wickedwitch]

Me in June 2012:

1) Murray
2) Trouba
3) Rielly
4) Lindholm
5) Reinhart

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=51565555&postcount=13

This is mainly a self-congratulatory post for having both Trouba and Lindholm in my top 4. If I had only gone with my gut on ranked Trouba first like I did in a different thread....

Today:
1) Trouba
2) Lindholm
3) Murray
4) Maatta
5) Rielly

 

[tsujimoto74]

Interesting how HF gives Ryan Murray an 8.0, Hampus Lindholm a 7.5 but Olli Maatta an 8.5. Based on their draft position you would think it would be the different.

Not really a useful tool for comparing players across the league. Different people do each team ranking, and every individual is going to come with their own set of biases or a tendency to rate low/high, etc.

 

[FlyTimmo]

I already have him ahead of a few of the guys taken first round. He's gonna be a solid defender.

He has progressed nicely. He just has so much offensive upside. IMO, there was no defenseman selected that has higher offensive potential than him, that includes Pouliot and Rielly. He is just so explosive. Hopefully he has a full recovery from that ACL injury.

 

[HanSolo]

Interesting how HF gives Ryan Murray an 8.0, Hampus Lindholm a 7.5 but Olli Maatta an 8.5. Based on their draft position you would think it would be the different.

Lindholm never even got graced with a top 50 prospects appearance by HF. I think their writers thought the pick was a reach.

Bobby Ryan also got higher ratings from HF than Getzlaf and Perry. So take them with a grain of salt whenever possible.