Rank the 'Big 5' European Leagues
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Since Pep became Barca’s 1st team manager in 2008, he’s spent more than Jose. In fact he’s the highest spending manager if you look at it per season.
I don’t understand the need to caveat and defend everything he does. He spends, he’s a great manager. He can be a dickhead at times too. He makes dumb excuses and wines. So do/did Conte, Klopp, Jose, Fergie, Wenger, et all. But for some reason it’s always explained away for Pep. It’s so odd.
Like I said, I never said he didn't spend.
I've criticized him before and have for years. Rather insulting putting those other managers in the same line as Mourinho.
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Funny thing about Man City spending on CBs/FBs. 5 of the 10 most expensive transfers of defenders in football history (totalling close to $300 million) have gone to Citeh.
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I think it's pretty clear that City are lethal upfront... don't think that's the argument from LH. However, they have yet to prove themselves on the big stage I.e champions league. I don't doubt they can win the CL but they need to prove it still. They're my favourite to win as of now.
On the contrary. When clubs from La Liga thrive in the Champions League the cause is always either luck, or help from bad refereeing, or both.
During the entire history of football, only English teams have ever won anything because of merit. It is for this reason that the correct ranking of the high-profile leagues should read as follows:
1) EPL
2-5) Who cares? Foreign muck, the lot of 'em.
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So who is number 6? Portugual's Primeira Liga?
Serie A is creating a new excitement. Juve's run could come to an end this year with Napoli challenging them. Inter are making a comeback. They've been shit since their treble 7 years ago. The two Roman clubs are no slouch. This league just needs Milan to get their shit together and be their old selves. The current table has 1st place and 5th place only 12 points apart as we speak. I like it. I just wish I had a club that I fully supported, lol. I do have a soft spot for Juve, though.
It's just hard to get into Bundesliga with Bayern just bullying everyone.
Serie A is creating a new excitement. Juve's run could come to an end this year with Napoli challenging them. Inter are making a comeback. They've been shit since their treble 7 years ago. The two Roman clubs are no slouch. This league just needs Milan to get their shit together and be their old selves. The current table has 1st place and 5th place only 12 points apart as we speak. I like it. I just wish I had a club that I fully supported, lol. I do have a soft spot for Juve, though.
It's just hard to get into Bundesliga with Bayern just bullying everyone.
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La Liga
EPL
Serie A
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
I'm down on the BL lately, completely one sided title races and this season especially their performances in Europe have been a disaster. While you can argue that the teams in Europe this season are "non-traditional" ones...they have still lost to teams like Domzale, Crvena Zvezda, Ludogorets, Braga, Ostersunds, Zorya while Dortmund couldn't beat APOEL in two games. My one big issue with Serie A is they made a mistake expanding to 20 clubs some 10-15 years back, they need to go back to 18. Too many seasons they have 1-2 clubs totally cut adrift
For 6th its between Russia/Portugal, can't comment too much as I don't watch these leagues. Portugal is very top heavy with only Braga doing anything in Europe outside the "big three" and their lower table clubs are all small and have little budgets, basically wouldn't be out of place in your standard EE league. Russia seems to have a more competitive top half (CSKA, Zenit, Loko, Spartak and throw in Rubin, Krasnodar, Rostov in the last few years having decent results in Europe). Turkey is a league which probably should be doing much better, they have some financial resources (the top clubs) but lack long term vision like a Porto/Benfica type. Galatasaray for me is the best example of this, in the early 2010s they were strong in Europe, good squad, kept Terim for multiple seasons and could have broken through as a strong club outside the traditional top 5 leagues, but then they went back to the typical Turk formula of sacking Terim for stupid reasons and then hiring the likes of Mancini, Prandelli which was impressive on paper but they accomplished nothing.
EPL
Serie A
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
I'm down on the BL lately, completely one sided title races and this season especially their performances in Europe have been a disaster. While you can argue that the teams in Europe this season are "non-traditional" ones...they have still lost to teams like Domzale, Crvena Zvezda, Ludogorets, Braga, Ostersunds, Zorya while Dortmund couldn't beat APOEL in two games. My one big issue with Serie A is they made a mistake expanding to 20 clubs some 10-15 years back, they need to go back to 18. Too many seasons they have 1-2 clubs totally cut adrift
For 6th its between Russia/Portugal, can't comment too much as I don't watch these leagues. Portugal is very top heavy with only Braga doing anything in Europe outside the "big three" and their lower table clubs are all small and have little budgets, basically wouldn't be out of place in your standard EE league. Russia seems to have a more competitive top half (CSKA, Zenit, Loko, Spartak and throw in Rubin, Krasnodar, Rostov in the last few years having decent results in Europe). Turkey is a league which probably should be doing much better, they have some financial resources (the top clubs) but lack long term vision like a Porto/Benfica type. Galatasaray for me is the best example of this, in the early 2010s they were strong in Europe, good squad, kept Terim for multiple seasons and could have broken through as a strong club outside the traditional top 5 leagues, but then they went back to the typical Turk formula of sacking Terim for stupid reasons and then hiring the likes of Mancini, Prandelli which was impressive on paper but they accomplished nothing.
Ligue 1 has never been a top league in Europe. Only 2 trophies in history that's all compare to 11 for Holland...
And L1 produces the most talent out of any european country. So for the slowest posters here : guys leave before being established.
That we know. And unlike Eredivisie teams, those players didn't win anything before moving abroad.
Feyenoord won UEFA Cup 2002 beating Bundesliga Champions Borussia Dortmund and Inter Milan. Ajax won in 1995 Champions League. Has made a final last year. Ligue 1 just can't deliver in Europe. Ukraine has 3 European trophies to France 2 in history, think about that.
Sure, go back to 95 and before. It helps your argument tremendously.
A french team has reached a CL final more recently than a dutch team.
A french team has reached a CL semi final more recently than a dutch team.
If Monaco had kept its players, they would probably be among the CL favourites. But that's L1. They've sold 5 key players.
A french team has reached a CL final more recently than a dutch team.
A french team has reached a CL semi final more recently than a dutch team.
If Monaco had kept its players, they would probably be among the CL favourites. But that's L1. They've sold 5 key players.
No, you can't deliver anything post 1995. That's 22 years ago.
Think about it again. 22 years ago.
Feyenoord 2002 Champions. Zenit 2008 Champions. Porto 2003 Champions. Porto 2004 Champions. CSKA 2005 Champions. Shakhtar 2009 Champions. Galatasaray 2000 Champions. All this this millenium while France has won NOTHING. How can anyone consider Ligue 1 a top ligue. It's a boring league and without any suspense + can't win in Europe then or now.
Are you seriously taking about the EL? Nobody but maybe Lyon cares about EL here.
So you're down to Porto. Period. Porto which had a great team, had a cinderella run and who had all the breaks throughout their campaign. Destiny team.
Yes Porto beat Monaco in the CL final. Monaco who had beaten Real and Chelsea along the way.
I'd say that's a better achievement than anything any dutch team has made since 1995.
So you're down to Porto. Period. Porto which had a great team, had a cinderella run and who had all the breaks throughout their campaign. Destiny team.
Yes Porto beat Monaco in the CL final. Monaco who had beaten Real and Chelsea along the way.
I'd say that's a better achievement than anything any dutch team has made since 1995.
Yes, and?
One single run in 22 years?
Great argument ! You're certainly making a point.
In fact, in the last 26 years, France has more CL finals than Holland. And way more semi finals.
Even though France was the only country for a long time to limit the budget of its teams, make every pro team have an academy, and tax the teams more than any other country in Europe.
That's why for 15 years, italian, spanish, portugese teams and many others had huge financial advantages.
It's still the case for a degree in fact.
One single run in 22 years?
Great argument ! You're certainly making a point.
In fact, in the last 26 years, France has more CL finals than Holland. And way more semi finals.
Even though France was the only country for a long time to limit the budget of its teams, make every pro team have an academy, and tax the teams more than any other country in Europe.
That's why for 15 years, italian, spanish, portugese teams and many others had huge financial advantages.
It's still the case for a degree in fact.
