Friedman: Rangers listening on Alexandar Georgiev

[Khelandros]

Because he's 23 and really good?

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

His numbers haven't been very good since coming over to NA, but maybe that's a reflection of the team in front of him? It's not like this is a situation like Schneider or Jones, where their NHL numbers were a lot more proven to be potential starter caliber, especially in Schneider's case.

It's the crappy defense in front of him. Georgiev has been fantastic since coming to New York.

 

[Srsly]

Lehner, Jones and Schneider were all traded for 1st round picks.

If you’re using them as examples of goalies returning decent value, that’s totally fine.

If you think Georgiev is comparable value wise, I’m not so sure. His numbers in the NHL aren’t comparable to those three who at the time were thought to be sure fire NHL starters. Georgiev would be targeted to someone looking for a backup or prospect and not a current starter. He definitely has some value and potential but I don’t think he’ll return a first. Maybe a struggling former first round pick or a second. But not a first(maybe a really late one, but it feels like a stretch)

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Yeah, I remember all those Ryan Miller threads when the Blues were going for him, and how Buffalo was demanding this great prospect haul with a 1st. They got a 1st, cap dumps, and a decent prospect that became a 4th liner, and he was in the middle of a really good season.

Even then, Ott came along with Miller, who at the time was still a very useful bottom 6 NHLer

 

[SprDaVE]

Maybe this is to prevent Shesterkin from going back to the KHL? Give him a call-up, give him a couple games and then re-assign him to the AHL? I know that some players have out clauses to not be in the AHL long-term, but I'm unaware if Shesterkin has one.

Seems like a weird situation but I'm sure there's a pretty valid reason.

 

[HogTown06]

Send him west please. He always stones the Leafs.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Even then, Ott came along with Miller, who at the time was still a very useful bottom 6 NHLer

Right. I was just illustrating that even a top 10ish goalie at the time in the league only gets about a 1st rounder. Goalies just don't carry much value unless you are certain it's a young goalie that can be a good #1 like Schneider, and even then, he just provided 3 good years, albeit really good years.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Send him west please. He always stones the Leafs.

Or send him to the Leafs

 

[charliemurphy]

Send Georgiev to Buffalo for Pekar and a pick

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Georgiev has had a positive GSAx and an above average SV% in every season of his career. Not sure why people are saying his numbers aren’t good.

 

[TGWL]

That's not really funny when it says "It". And yeah, he actually is good. Whether he can maintain a starting workload, we'll have to wait and see. But he's good enough to steal some games and has done that already.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Georgiev has had a positive GSAx and an above average SV% in every season of his career. Not sure why people are saying his numbers aren’t good.

Because most people who talk about goalies can't evaluate goalies beyond saying what their save% is.

 

[TGWL]

Maybe this is to prevent Shesterkin from going back to the KHL? Give him a call-up, give him a couple games and then re-assign him to the AHL? I know that some players have out clauses to not be in the AHL long-term, but I'm unaware if Shesterkin has one.

Seems like a weird situation but I'm sure there's a pretty valid reason.

His clause is for next year.

 

[backburner]

To Arizona ?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Georgiev and Kreider to Toronto

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Because most people who talk about goalies can't evaluate goalies beyond saying what their save% is.

Even his save percentage is literally above average in every season of his career.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Georgiev and Kreider to Toronto

I highly doubt it bit it would be awesome

 

[bleedblue1223]

Georgiev has had a positive GSAx and an above average SV% in every season of his career. Not sure why people are saying his numbers aren’t good.

According to this, it's negative this season.

Daily Goalie Charts | Charting Hockey

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I highly doubt it bit it would be awesome

agreed... its unlikely but Kreider on TO would be deadly to see. And Georgiev would be very helpful

 

[ViD]

Is there a reason that Georgiev would be in demand that I'm missing?

The reason is he’s 23 years old and already a good NHL level goalie which could be acquired somewhat rather cheap considering Rangers goalie situation.

 

[Merrrlin]

*Incoming call from Kyle Dubas*

Honestly, price is likely too high. I would think it's more worthwhile for a team like Carolina or Ottawa where he can actually have the chance to grow into a starter.

 

[Jovavic]

Somewhat reminds me of Bobrovsky so far in his career, when he gets alot of work he plays great but he's prone to having a bad period every other game...Bob was traded for two 2nds but he also had more games played at this point. Whoever ends up with this guy is going to be happy, though I doubt he has the individual success that Bob had

 

[Kamiccolo]

Have to imagine the Leafs have made an offer. No idea if it is anywhere close to getting it done. Doubt they move significant futures, unless they can move a F there or something for a combination of a goalie and cap relief coming back such as Johnsson.

 

[Thordic]

Most of us NYR fans aren't expecting a 1st round pick for Georgiev.

Agreed, I haven't seen any of us expecting a huge return on him. Talbot was more proven and we had higher hopes. Georgiev has lots of potential but still has some question marks as well.

 

[ViD]

Name 10 goalies 23 or younger and better than him.


Didn’t think so.