Proposal: Rangers-Lightning

[JC704]

To New York:
Mikhail Sergachev

To Tampa Bay:
Nils Lundkvist
Alexandar Georgiev
Carolina's 2020 first-round pick

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[WingsMJN2965]

Tampa gets a late pick, a defensive prospect they don't need, and a goalie they can't protect.

... Next.

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

To New York:
Mikhail Sergachev

To Tampa Bay:
Nils Lundkvist
Alexandar Georgiev
Carolina's 2020 first-round pick

Get real.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Get real.

Solid commentary coming from the guy who started a Larkin thread by immediately taking Kakko, Lafreniere, and Fox off the table.

 

[5cotland]

NYR wont trade Lundkvist unless it is absolutely necessary. The kid is unbelievable and our top prospect at the moment.

I would see DeAngelo being traded before Lundkvist.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To New York:
Mikhail Sergachev

To Tampa Bay:
Nils Lundkvist
Alexandar Georgiev
Carolina's 2020 first-round pick

No way Tampa makes this trade, Next Brisebois declines this doesn't help Tampa one iota.

 

[TBF1972]

Solid commentary coming from the guy who started a Larkin thread by immediately taking Kakko, Lafreniere, and Fox off the table.

He probably thinks it's an overpayment.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Tampa says no

 

[GAGLine]

So, this puts us even more over the cap and now we have to expose one of ADA or Lindgren in the expansion draft.

 

[devils29]

Does nothing for the Lightning. Devils could easily beat this offer as well as any other team looking for a Dman

 

[HoseEmDown]

Fox + Carolina 1st.

 

[5cotland]

Fox + Carolina 1st.

Is Sergachev really that much better than Fox?

 

[5cotland]

Does nothing for the Lightning. Devils could easily beat this offer as well as any other team looking for a Dman

I think you are seriously undervaluing Lundkvist here.

 

[SRHRangers]

Hard no by both sides.

I want to keep Lundkvist anyway.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Is Sergachev really that much better than Fox?

Does it matter? If you're asking for the player then you need to pay up for them.

 

[5cotland]

Does it matter? If you're asking for the player then you need to pay up for them.

Well ye it matters. It is about finding the common ground that is acceptable for both teams.

Fox plus 1st seems quite excessive.

 

[SRHRangers]

I would argue that Fox with 2 ELC years left is more valuable than Sergachev.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Not saying Tampa should or would accept; but from a 3rd party perspective this isn’t the ridiculously poor offer many are making it out to be.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Does it matter? If you're asking for the player then you need to pay up for them.

Yes, it does. Just because that’s what you want, doesn’t mean it’s a viable deal for the other side.

 

[devils29]

I think you are seriously undervaluing Lundkvist here.

I think you’re seriously over valuing Lundkvist. Tampa is in win now. Why do they give up a 22 yo proven defenseman for futures.

 

[SRHRangers]

I think you’re seriously over valuing Lundkvist. Tampa is in win now. Why do they give up a 22 yo proven defenseman for futures.

Because TBs cap crunch is pretty bad.

They will have to sacrifice something, although Sergachev is prolly last on the list that will be lost.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Yes, it does. Just because that’s what you want, doesn’t mean it’s a viable deal for the other side.

Well we don't want to move Sergachev so we are going to need an overpayment to make us consider. Fox straight up might be fair value but if we don't want to move our player we will need more than fair value.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Well we don't want to move Sergachev so we are going to need an overpayment to make us consider. Fox straight up might be fair value but if we don't want to move our player we will need more than fair value.

That’s not how deals work in the NHL. You don’t see overpayments for the sake of overpayments.

This isn’t EA NHL where you can just turn off the computer GM because you throw a hissy fit when your trade isn’t accepted. GM’s talk and eventually come to a middle point.

I’m not saying Tampa has to deal Sergachev. I know there’s cap issues, but I’d imagine other moves would be made before they deal him unless his asking price is too steep for their liking.

With that said, GM’s do not negotiate the way you seem to think they do.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

That’s not how deals work in the NHL. You don’t see overpayments for the sake of overpayments.

This isn’t EA NHL where you can just turn off the computer GM because you throw a hissy fit when your trade isn’t accepted. GM’s talk and eventually come to a middle point.

I’m not saying Tampa has to deal Sergachev. I know there’s cap issues, but I’d imagine other moves would be made before they deal him unless his asking price is too steep for their liking.

With that said, GM’s do not negotiate the way you seem to think they do.

Once in GM mode, I constantly signed and traded, and then signed and traded more top UFAs, as well as all my secondary draft picks, and ended up with the Top 5 picks in the upcoming draft...

... Kinda wish Detroit could do that this year.

 

[Flyer lurker]

To New York:
Mikhail Sergachev

To Tampa Bay:
Nils Lundkvist
Alexandar Georgiev
Carolina's 2020 first-round pick

Is TBL plan to acquire draft picks in 20 or 21? Last I checked they traded 2 1's and N Foote so NO scratch that off as TBL need.

Does TBL need a goalie? Last I checked Vazy is an all star. Trade your 2nd best d-man for a goalie you can lose in ED one year from now. BRILLIANT!

Lundkvist is the only asset worth talking about and you do not trade Serge for him.

If the only good things about an offer for Serge or Cirelli is cap room or its better than getting offer sheeted, just don't put the offer out there.