Post-Game Talk: Rangers @ Islanders | 1/16/20

[ohbaby]

- Now, seeing how much chemistry he has with Panarin, I am firmly in the re-sign camp. Don't be fooled, not everyone can play with Panarin. The fact that Strome is over-performing with him is not a negative, it's a positive. It allows Zib to slot in on another line and gives us so much balance in our top 6.

I've been saying the same thing. You could actually take it one line further. With Panarin jelling with Strome,.. freeing up Zibad and Kreids to do their own thing,... gives opposing teams two lines to worry about. This takes all the pressure and concentration of other teams,.. off the 3rd line. The kids line. And you see how well they are doing lately. So in effect, Strome and Panarin's chemistry, actually improves all 3 scoring lines.

 

[Pidto Files]

I'm worried about Pidto.

Me too.

 

[ponytrekker]

1. Georgiev
2. DeAngelo
3. Kreider

Amazing that our three stars likely won't be here in a month.

 

[YearlyLottery]

I mean like screw the Rangers but I do think the rivalry is coming back. Man, what a game that was. Had some intense goals, borderline hits, and emotions were running high.

Drives the NYI board nuts when I say this, but it is always better for hockey and us as fans if the Isles and Rangers are competitive teams.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Amazing that our three stars likely won't be here in a month.

You guys see DeAngelo as a piece that is getting traded rather than staying? I feel like him and Strome played themselves onto the team but I guess not.

 

[Gardner McKay]

The Isles postgame thread was VOMIT. Ripping Fox for choosing NY and how if it wasn't for NYC the NYR wouldn't have Panarin or Fox. Crying about the refs, saying the Zibanejad goal wasn't conclusive enough. They wanted "Ross the Plug" to target Lindgren and DeAngelo. Oh, and one guy said "what's with these shi**y goalies playing well against us"? HAHAHAHA. You know they're hurting.

They have such a Mickey Mouse crew and the women they have on their broadcast are downright terrible.

I don’t live in NY so I don’t have MSG but what happened to Deb Placey? She’s legit one of the best in the business.

 

[Synergy27]

Didn't you say exactly this the other day about the Devil's or someo, too?

I’m putting this on my greatest hits album.

 

[Synergy27]

I've been saying the same thing. You could actually take it one line further. With Panarin jelling with Strome,.. freeing up Zibad and Kreids to do their own thing, this gives opposing teams two lines to worry about. This takes off all the pressure and concentration of other teams,.. off the 3rd line. The kids line. And you see how well they are doing lately. So in effect, Strome and Panarin's chemistry, actually improves all 3 scoring lines.

Agreed. People consistently underrate chemistry. There’s a reason why the star studded dark ages Ranger teams were bad, and lack of chemistry is a major component of it.

In my eyes, the core of the top 6 is set. They can probably adjust to losing Kreider (I’d prefer to keep him somehow) but the Strome-Panarin combo and Zibanejad need to stay. Put whatever plug you want with Panarin and work the kids around until the magic happens with Zibanejad as well. And then, keep those lines intact for a LOOOOONG time.

Find combos that work, commit to them, deal with the occasional bad game but reap the long term benefits. Most of the top offensive players in the league are part of a line or combo that has been together for a really long time. Chemistry is critical.

 

[nyr2k2]

Sign him long-term and we'll be regretting it.

Yeah, I don't disagree. It's just he emotional aspect of it. He's been ours since he was 19 and we've all followed him for so long, and he's an awesome bro. I will miss him. It will be hard to say goodbye.

 

[jwelles17]

Does anyone know why Kreider and DeAngelo didn't receive assists on Zib's PP goal?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

We aren't buying out Hank. Come on.

Why? What purpose does Hank serve? He's an $8.5M back-up goalie on this team. I'd rather pay him $5.5M not to play than $8.5M to play.

 

[leetch99]

Geesh...Trouba , 8 Million does not go as far as it once did . Must be the inflation factor .

 

[wafflepadsave]

I like a lot of what I"m seeing out of Kakko right now, doing a lot more than he was before christmas

it hasn't all come together for him yet but he's playing the puck more and looking to make thing shappen more. Getting more touches, the points will come

I bet he does well after the all star break

Probably just a maturity issue. He’ll get better with time.

 

[Blue Blooded]

Does anyone know why Kreider and DeAngelo didn't receive assists on Zib's PP goal?

I assume because the Pulock pushed the puck into Varlamov before Zib's shot and they counted that as a change of possession.

 

[leetch99]

Well...I'm two for two in the pick the winner in this series . It did not look good last night until we started owning the boards later in the game and winning the battles . I am glad I am not the GM though with some of the decisions that need to be made . Refs were just plain bad last night . Fast must be practicing the backwards leg kick...reverse Panarin move ....worked out well LOL....won us the game. Kreider , will he get a hearing for the elbow on the push in by Isles D on Isles goalie ?

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Having guys like Fox and ADA on the back end who can make quick smart plays with the puck under pressure is a big reason why we can actually beat the Islanders now.

Staal, Skjei, and to a lesser extent Trouba were victimized a few times each by the Islanders relentless forecheck.

Also, please please please go away Micheal Haley. At least McKegg has a motor.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

#THISISHOWYOUGETINCAPHELL

Dan Girardi, Marc Staal, Brendan Smith, Brady Skjei, Jacob Trouba say hello.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Why? What purpose does Hank serve? He's an $8.5M back-up goalie on this team. I'd rather pay him $5.5M not to play than $8.5M to play.

Completely agree. I wish we was willing to accept a trade but a buyout works too.


Also, I cannot state enough how much my hatred for the ****ing Isles has been renewed. Everything about that shit kicker franchise... I hate it.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

You guys see DeAngelo as a piece that is getting traded rather than staying? I feel like him and Strome played themselves onto the team but I guess not.

I am one of ADA’s toughest critics, but there’s no way he’s trade bait this year. I mean, never say never, obviously; someone could always come with a godfather offer. But the points are simply too much to ignore.

The reason it comes up is because a) there is interest around the league; b) despite the offense, Tony still has significant flaws (witness the hotheaded display last night and the fact that he doesn’t PK); and c) the Rangers will have a pending cap issue with the RHD several years down the line.

IMO, the most likely outcome is that he stays, signs a 2- or 4-year RFA deal this summer, and then, somewhere down the line, one of the RHD is moved in a significant hockey trade — at which point, I personally do believe it’ll be ADA who goes, due to his flaws, eventual cost, and the timing of younger players coming up behind him (though, of course, a lot can change over time).

(As for Strome, people are skeptical of his performance — despite the fact that he’s been doing it for a year now, including before Panarin arrived — because of all the bad years in EDM. Some of my fellow posters are firmly convinced the performance is a quirk of opportunity and destined to fade.)

 

[TheDirtyH]

Brassard is such a troll. Happy he's found a spot in the league again. Happier that his bs cost his team the win.

Kakko has been playing much better and had another good game overall. Chytil has really lifted that line, even Howden has improved--playing on the wing seems to have really helped him too. Still, while I love to see Kakko making strong dekes, sweet passes, and holding off defensemen along the walls, if he becomes another Ranger who refuses to shoot, he'll be hard pressed to become a fan (this fan's) favorite.

 

[NYRangers0723]

I’m kind of surprised Strome is getting so much love to resign. Look I like Strome and I’m glad he is having a good year statiscally he is having a good year but I think it’s fair to say that a Panarin is a major reason why. Panarin has really given him some picture perfect setups and also draws multiple defenders to him because how good he is. I’m not trying to knock on a Strome and I’m fine resigning him but when he is away from Panarin it’s not close to the same impact

 

[egelband]

You guys see DeAngelo as a piece that is getting traded rather than staying? I feel like him and Strome played themselves onto the team but I guess not.

Sather would have given them all long term deals. Gorton... he is a little more cutthroat I sense. But it’s really hard to tell what’s going to happen in the next few weeks.

 

[YearlyLottery]

I’m kind of surprised Strome is getting so much love to resign. Look I like Strome and I’m glad he is having a good year statiscally he is having a good year but I think it’s fair to say that a Panarin is a major reason why. Panarin has really given him some picture perfect setups and also draws multiple defenders to him because how good he is. I’m not trying to knock on a Strome and I’m fine resigning him but when he is away from Panarin it’s not close to the same impact

I was one of Strome's biggest fans when he was with the Islanders. That being said, there were a few things that ruined his career with the Islanders.

He was fantastic his first two seasons (well the first one he got called up about midway through but you get the point). Strome was the second line center they were always missing that would be behind Tavares. It seemed as if Snow FINALLY hit on a top five pick.

Capuano ruined Strome. He would throw him on the fourth line, he got sent back to the AHL for a period of time, he would get thrown around to wing and center whenever Capuano wanted to. The rumor is that it was something with his work ethic, but I will never know for sure about that one. This really ruined his growth as a player. He was never going to then develop into anything from a NYI standpoint which is why he was dealt for Eberle who has worked out, but if Capuano was not such a moron Strome would have been a very solid player.

It seems as if he then went to Edmonton and never was a fit there either. To be fair though, his first two organizations were a complete laughing stock at the time he was with them. I think his skating holds him back from contributing on his own though. He certainly needs a solid player next to him in order to pick up the points, which is he is a point per game player with Panarin, why not just resign him?

 

[NYRangers0723]

I was one of Strome's biggest fans when he was with the Islanders. That being said, there were a few things that ruined his career with the Islanders.

He was fantastic his first two seasons (well the first one he got called up about midway through but you get the point). Strome was the second line center they were always missing that would be behind Tavares. It seemed as if Snow FINALLY hit on a top five pick.

Capuano ruined Strome. He would throw him on the fourth line, he got sent back to the AHL for a period of time, he would get thrown around to wing and center whenever Capuano wanted to. The rumor is that it was something with his work ethic, but I will never know for sure about that one. This really ruined his growth as a player. He was never going to then develop into anything from a NYI standpoint which is why he was dealt for Eberle who has worked out, but if Capuano was not such a moron Strome would have been a very solid player.

It seems as if he then went to Edmonton and never was a fit there either. To be fair though, his first two organizations were a complete laughing stock at the time he was with them. I think his skating holds him back from contributing on his own though. He certainly needs a solid player next to him in order to pick up the points, which is he is a point per game player with Panarin, why not just resign him?

I’m not knocking the guy. I just would like to see him do more even when on nights Panarin might be defended well and Strome needs to do more alone, I’m fine with keeping him. It just depends on what the contract is. Also the emergence of a chytil makes it tricky too who I think can be a 2C

 

[Mac n Gs]

He wasn't rewarded on the stat sheet, but Chytil was an absolute machine last night.