Confirmed with Link: QO: Dach, Primeau, Schnarr, Teasdale & Montembeault

[Archijerej]

People really need to read threads more carefully. Several posters explained above how Pitlick's arbitration rights made qualifying him risky. Just read the damn thing!

The more interesting question, though, is why there is no thread about us signing Pezzetta? It's out there on the main board.

 

[Natey]

People really need to read threads more carefully. Several posters explained above how Pitlick's arbitration rights made qualifying him risky. Just read the damn thing!

IMO, it didn't really make him risky. He was tradeable, even if overpaid slightly. Someone would have taken a chance on a 40 point player on a 1-year deal. It was never going to be risky.

The only reasons I can think of that you don't even bother is because there's a lot of moves in the works and it wasn't worth the man power to just gain a mid round pick. And that they probably wanted Ylonen on the roster over Pitlick to see what Ylonen can do.

I like that they kept Montembault. In my mind, he could be another Denis Herron i.e. a good bad team goalie. The guy got shelled a lot of nights and he wasn't the main reason the team lost so many games.

I wonder where they see Schnarr fitting on the team?

Schnarr is an AHL guy for now. But he's still got potential to be a late bloomer and he's got really good size, which is where they want to go. He could potentially develop into a nice player. Very good 2-way player, so I think they see him as maybe a 20-point 4th line C type. Could be a good replacement if Evans moves up to the 3rd line and we move Dvorak.

 

[Adam Michaels]

MA Godin wrote in The Athletic that it's because Pitlick has Arb Rights that Habs opted not to qualify him.

They know if they go to the arbitrator, Pitlick has a good argument to get what he's asking for.

If the Habs would be able to make room on the cap with some moves and Pitlick doesn't get what he's looking for, the Habs would be willing to extend him.

 

[BLONG7]

People really need to read threads more carefully. Several posters explained above how Pitlick's arbitration rights made qualifying him risky. Just read the damn thing!

The more interesting question, though, is why there is no thread about us signing Pezzetta? It's out there on the main board.

There is a thread for Pezzzz

 

[WinterLion]

No, goalies get 4 years.

Thanks for the clarification! That rule makes sense!

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

This made a lot of sense. Arbitrators generally look at comptables and that doesn’t always give the proper story.

 

[Scintillating10]

how, he was f***ing terrible.

I was surprised Clague was so bad. He was a second round pick and once good rated prospect. He didn't even look ECHL level with Habs

 

[BaseballCoach]

I was surprised Clague was so bad. He was a second round pick and once good rated prospect. He didn't even look ECHL level with Habs

And MB/Timmins drafted his clone Norlinder and tried yet again with another clone Niku

 

[Jack Skellington]

Slaf is fine, dach could be great, owen beck will probably be better than you expect, he's looked good in dev camp and another OHLer who missed a year of dev.

Wow so salty. I expect you will be eating crow for quite some time.

Don’t worry I’ve been watching this guy whine and be wrong for 10 years. It doesn’t get old.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

It's an interesting year for RFAs not being signed. I think the flat cap has a lot to do with these management decisions.

It's always funny to see the GMs being so stingy about overpaying their players a few hundred k, and being willing to let them go for free. Then a few days later UFA period comes along and 2nd/3rd liners get way overpaid.

 

[Scintillating10]

MA Godin wrote in The Athletic that it's because Pitlick has Arb Rights that Habs opted not to qualify him.

They know if they go to the arbitrator, Pitlick has a good argument to get what he's asking for.

If the Habs would be able to make room on the cap with some moves and Pitlick doesn't get what he's looking for, the Habs would be willing to extend him.

Couldn't we just walk away if Arb. Gave Pitluck too much?

And MB/Timmins drafted his clone Norlinder and tried yet again with another clone Niku

Sounds like you giving up on Nordlinder kind of quick

 

[Adam Michaels]

Couldn't we just walk away if Arb. Gave Pitluck too much?

Yes, the club has the option to reject the arbitrator's ruling and the player becomes UFA.

But as a team, if you realize that the player will most likely get more of what he wants than what the team wants, then there is no reason to go through the process.

 

[Tyson]

Yes, the club has the option to reject the arbitrator's ruling and the player becomes UFA.

But as a team, if you realize that the player will most likely get more of what he wants than what the team wants, then there is no reason to go through the process.

Overpriced wingers we have in abundance.
Pitlick at the end of the day was waiver fodder

 

[Adam Michaels]

Overpriced wingers we have in abundance.
Pitlick at the end of the day was waiver fodder

Yup. I'm sure Habs would rather keep him over other wingers. Unfortunately, Hughes at the moment is handcuffed with some contracts left over from MB.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Yes, the club has the option to reject the arbitrator's ruling and the player becomes UFA.

But as a team, if you realize that the player will most likely get more of what he wants than what the team wants, then there is no reason to go through the process.

They can only walk away if the ruling exceeds $4.5M

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yup. I'm sure Habs would rather keep him over other wingers. Unfortunately, Hughes at the moment is handcuffed with some contracts left over from MB.

Wrong - MB was a paragon of perfection.

 

[26Mats]

Overpriced wingers we have in abundance.
Pitlick at the end of the day was waiver fodder

If he can continue to play like he did last year over 82 games, I wouldn't consider him over priced at 3-3.5M on a 1 year deal.

But since we have a ton of unmovable vets who are in fact overpriced, and he's not the type you use draft picks to move out vets to make room for, have to let him walk.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Wrong - MB was a paragon of perfection.

Correction - a parody of perfection

 

[Adam Michaels]

Today is the deadline for Dach and Primeau to accept their qualifying offers.

But even if they don't, it doesn't mean they can't come to terms on a deal.

 

[Chili]

For a comparison, went through the non tendered list, the main ones (most are forwards, most are 25-26 years old):

Sonny Milano Ana 66gp 14g 20a
Sam Steel Ana 68gp 6 14a
Christian Fischer Arz 53gp 5g 5a
Kyle Capobianco D Arz 45gp 2g 7a
Cam Dineen D Arz 34gp 0g 7a
Dylan Strome Chi 69gp 22g 26a
Dominik Kubalik Chi 78gp 15g 17a
Gabriel Carlsson D Clb 38gp 2g 7a
Nicolas Aube-Kubel Col 74gp 11g 12a
Mitchell Stephens Det 27gp 0g 6a
Olli Juolevi D Det 18gp 0g 0a
Brendan Perlini Edm 23gp 4g 1a
Brendan Lemieux LA 50gp 8g 5a
Rem Pitlick Mtl 66gp 15g 22a
Kale Clague D Mtl 36gp 2g 8a
Matt Luff Nas 24gp 3g 3a
Adam Gaudette Ott 50gp 4g 8a
Victor Mete D Ott 37 gp 0g 7a
Danton Heinen Pit 76gp 18g 15a
Jonathen Dahlen SJ 61gp 12g 10a
Nicolas Meloche D SJ 50gp 2g 5a
Ryan Donato Sea 73gp 16g 15a
Daniel Sprong Sea 62gp 13g 6a
Haydn Fleury D Sea 36gp 2g 2a
Ondej Kase Tor 50gp 14g 13a
Juho Lammikko Van 75gp 7g 8a
Matthew Highmore Van 46gp 5g 7a
Brett Howden Veg 47gp 9g 11a
Ilya Samsonov G Was 44gp 23-12-5 3.02gaa .896sp
Evgeny Svechnikov 71gp 7g 12a

Hawks are making things interesting.

To update the main non tenders:

Sonny Milano Ana 66gp 14g 20a
Sam Steel Ana 68gp 6 14a
Christian Fischer Arz 53gp 5g 5a resigned with Arizona
Kyle Capobianco D Arz 45gp 2g 7a signed with Winnipeg
Cam Dineen D Arz 34gp 0g 7a resigned with Arizona
Dylan Strome Chi 69gp 22g 26a signed with Washington
Dominik Kubalik Chi 78gp 15g 17a signed with Detroit
Gabriel Carlsson D Clb 38gp 2g 7a signed with Washington
Nicolas Aube-Kubel Col 74gp 11g 12a signed with Toronto
Mitchell Stephens Det 27gp 0g 6a signed with Montreal
Olli Juolevi D Det 18gp 0g 0a signed with Anaheim
Brendan Perlini Edm 23gp 4g 1a
Brendan Lemieux LA 50gp 8g 5a resigned with LA
Rem Pitlick Mtl 66gp 15g 22a resigned with Montreal
Kale Clague D Mtl 36gp 2g 8a signed with Buffalo
Matt Luff Nas 24gp 3g 3a signed with Detroit
Adam Gaudette Ott 50gp 4g 8a signed with Toronto
Victor Mete D Ott 37 gp 0g 7a signed with Toronto
Danton Heinen Pit 76gp 18g 15a resigned with Pittsburgh
Jonathen Dahlen SJ 61gp 12g 10a
Nicolas Meloche D SJ 50gp 2g 5a signed with Calgary
Ryan Donato Sea 73gp 16g 15a resigned with Seattle
Daniel Sprong Sea 62gp 13g 6a
Haydn Fleury D Sea 36gp 2g 2a signed with Tampa Bay
Ondej Kase Tor 50gp 14g 13a signed with Carolina
Juho Lammikko Van 75gp 7g 8a
Matthew Highmore Van 46gp 5g 7a signed with St. Louis
Brett Howden Veg 47gp 9g 11a signed with Vegas
Ilya Samsonov G Was 44gp 23-12-5 3.02gaa .896sp signed with Toronto
Evgeny Svechnikov Win 71gp 7g 12a

Couple of interesting names left but most found new homes or re-signed with their teams.

 

[Belial]

To update the main non tenders:

Sonny Milano Ana 66gp 14g 20a
Sam Steel Ana 68gp 6 14a
Christian Fischer Arz 53gp 5g 5a resigned with Arizona
Kyle Capobianco D Arz 45gp 2g 7a signed with Winnipeg
Cam Dineen D Arz 34gp 0g 7a resigned with Arizona
Dylan Strome Chi 69gp 22g 26a signed with Washington
Dominik Kubalik Chi 78gp 15g 17a signed with Detroit
Gabriel Carlsson D Clb 38gp 2g 7a signed with Washington
Nicolas Aube-Kubel Col 74gp 11g 12a signed with Toronto
Mitchell Stephens Det 27gp 0g 6a signed with Montreal
Olli Juolevi D Det 18gp 0g 0a
Brendan Perlini Edm 23gp 4g 1a
Brendan Lemieux LA 50gp 8g 5a resigned with LA
Rem Pitlick Mtl 66gp 15g 22a resigned with Montreal
Kale Clague D Mtl 36gp 2g 8a signed with Buffalo
Matt Luff Nas 24gp 3g 3a signed with Detroit
Adam Gaudette Ott 50gp 4g 8a signed with Toronto
Victor Mete D Ott 37 gp 0g 7a signed with Toronto
Danton Heinen Pit 76gp 18g 15a
Jonathen Dahlen SJ 61gp 12g 10a
Nicolas Meloche D SJ 50gp 2g 5a signed with Calgary
Ryan Donato Sea 73gp 16g 15a
Daniel Sprong Sea 62gp 13g 6a
Haydn Fleury D Sea 36gp 2g 2a signed with Tampa Bay
Ondej Kase Tor 50gp 14g 13a signed with Carolina
Juho Lammikko Van 75gp 7g 8a
Matthew Highmore Van 46gp 5g 7a signed with St. Louis
Brett Howden Veg 47gp 9g 11a signed with Vegas
Ilya Samsonov G Was 44gp 23-12-5 3.02gaa .896sp signed with Toronto
Evgeny Svechnikov Win 71gp 7g 12a

Couple of interesting names left but most found new homes or re-signed with their teams.

Jesus Christ, you really took the time to do that? Respect!

 

[Chili]

Jesus Christ, you really took the time to do that? Respect!

Keep track of the rosters year round, so that didn't take long at all. Thread was an interesting re-read.

 

[BaseballCoach]

If he can continue to play like he did last year over 82 games, I wouldn't consider him over priced at 3-3.5M on a 1 year deal.

But since we have a ton of unmovable vets who are in fact overpriced, and he's not the type you use draft picks to move out vets to make room for, have to let him walk.

So I guess you are ok with him at $1.1M?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

To update the main non tenders:

Sonny Milano Ana 66gp 14g 20a
Sam Steel Ana 68gp 6 14a
Christian Fischer Arz 53gp 5g 5a resigned with Arizona
Kyle Capobianco D Arz 45gp 2g 7a signed with Winnipeg
Cam Dineen D Arz 34gp 0g 7a resigned with Arizona
Dylan Strome Chi 69gp 22g 26a signed with Washington
Dominik Kubalik Chi 78gp 15g 17a signed with Detroit
Gabriel Carlsson D Clb 38gp 2g 7a signed with Washington
Nicolas Aube-Kubel Col 74gp 11g 12a signed with Toronto
Mitchell Stephens Det 27gp 0g 6a signed with Montreal
Olli Juolevi D Det 18gp 0g 0a
Brendan Perlini Edm 23gp 4g 1a
Brendan Lemieux LA 50gp 8g 5a resigned with LA
Rem Pitlick Mtl 66gp 15g 22a resigned with Montreal
Kale Clague D Mtl 36gp 2g 8a signed with Buffalo
Matt Luff Nas 24gp 3g 3a signed with Detroit
Adam Gaudette Ott 50gp 4g 8a signed with Toronto
Victor Mete D Ott 37 gp 0g 7a signed with Toronto
Danton Heinen Pit 76gp 18g 15a
Jonathen Dahlen SJ 61gp 12g 10a
Nicolas Meloche D SJ 50gp 2g 5a signed with Calgary
Ryan Donato Sea 73gp 16g 15a
Daniel Sprong Sea 62gp 13g 6a
Haydn Fleury D Sea 36gp 2g 2a signed with Tampa Bay
Ondej Kase Tor 50gp 14g 13a signed with Carolina
Juho Lammikko Van 75gp 7g 8a
Matthew Highmore Van 46gp 5g 7a signed with St. Louis
Brett Howden Veg 47gp 9g 11a signed with Vegas
Ilya Samsonov G Was 44gp 23-12-5 3.02gaa .896sp signed with Toronto
Evgeny Svechnikov Win 71gp 7g 12a

Couple of interesting names left but most found new homes or re-signed with their teams.

Dahlen would be interesting if we didn't already have a thousand forwards under contract.....