Post-Game Talk: Puck In Da Net: Habs, Fleury win in bizarre 6-5 OT/SO game

[Kimota]

Seems like the Habs are play much more loose when they're not at the Bell's. Against the Red Wings they came off pretty crisped, all nervous and it felt like a shore doing any little passes. Against the Pens it's like they had far more jump, like they didn't have this big piano on their back.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

As we do every year whenever we win, and will continue to do every year, magically, miraculously, no matter who's behind the bench, because every year this board is leading the charge to have whoever's back there in the suit fired due to his obvious, blatant, incompetence. Sorry if I act like I've seen this movie before.

Carbonneau, Martin, Therrien, Cunneyworth... Not exactly an all-star lineup of coaches now is it? (And I do not want to start the whole French coach debate but that's a horrible list.)

 

[mrcontractor*]

When I'm having a bad day at work, I just have to come on this board...comedy gold

 

[Kriss E]

Or, another option, they could calm the hell down and acknowledge the situation is just as I presented it in my previous post.

You didn't present any situation. You didn't dive into the details, you simply stated teams are back from the Olympics, we got 3 out of 4 pts, which is great. We all want the team to pick up points, but not sure how this translate into a discussion about how the team is actually performing and some of the coaching decisions being made.

 

[Pricef*]

Elitism on an online forum, ain't that cute. As if his completely one-sided illogical hate was worst than yours, it's both unbearable and mindless.

3 points out of 4 in back to back games, with our backup no less, I won't argue too much about it, even if those were some ugly 3 points.

I see a lot of hate towards MT, yet in general nothing seems to really back that **** up. We're currently sitting 3rd in the East, with what is a really old and average roster in most aspects, and yet the actual system that all of you despises still produce results. I don't agree with how MT is handling our prospects, but saying that the guy is 100% responsible for our failures and 0% for our success is downright stupid.

Every now and then a post appears on this board that restores my faith in this place. Thankyou.

 

[hockeyfan2k11]

Why do we need a 1st line center? We're winning.
Why do we need to shore up the defense. We're winning. Hand Markov a blank check.
Why do we need to fix the PP? We're winning.
Why do we need to improve our anemic 5 on 5 production? We're winning!!!
Why do we need to trade Bourque? We're winning!!!
Why should Gorges step his game up? We're winning!!!

These same people will be unbearable when they're crying in threads about the Habs getting blown out in the 1st round. "but but but we were so good in the regular season...how were we so easily neutralized and outcoached?

How many times in the last 10 years were we winning in the regular season all to get destroyed in the playoffs? Why do you think that is? Because your problems get magnified in the playoffs. Habs fans asleep at the wheel again.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Why do we need a 1st line center? We're winning.
Why do we need to shore up the defense. We're winning. Hand Markov a blank check.
Why do we need to fix the PP? We're winning.
Why do we need to improve our anemic 5 on 5 production? We're winning!!!
Why do we need to trade Bourque? We're winning!!!
Why should Gorges step his game up? We're winning!!!

These same people will be unbearable when they're crying in threads about the Habs getting blown out in the 1st round. "but but but we were so good in the regular season...how were we so easily neutralized and outcoached?

How many times in the last 10 years were we winning in the regular season all to get destroyed in the playoffs? Why do you think that is? Because your problems get magnified in the playoffs. Habs fans asleep at the wheel again.

Ignored this post cuz we're winning.

REGRESSION FTW

 

[Pricef*]

i don't no how anybody can deny the talent on this team.

the issue isn't in talent, but that they're not playing as good as w know they can play, and we constantly see the wrong players on the ice and players benched---while others get off free and rack pp time.

honestly. this team isn't bad, we're just badly managed.

I agree with this statement.

 

[Price is Wright]

I like how it's wrong to expect perfection from Subban but not Therrien.

 

[Andy]

I like how it's wrong to expect perfection from Subban but not Therrien.

I don't expect perfection from Therrien. I expect competency. He has none.

 

[zzoo]

Tough question: when was the last time that Habs came back 4 times in a game ? FOUR times !

 

[hockeyfan2k11]

Tough question: when was the last time that Habs came back 4 times in a game ? FOUR times !

Shows just how bad Fleury played.

 

[Habs Icing]

I don't expect perfection from Therrien. I expect competency. He has none.

Would it be okay if he expected the same thing from HF posters when evaluating his decisions?

 

[Andy]

Would it be okay if he expected the same thing from HF posters when evaluating his decisions?

So it was okay for you to call Gauthier and Gainey incompetent for all those years, but when people turn around and do the same for Therrien, it's the posters that are incompetent.

I see.

 

[SuperUnknown]

The funny thing about HFboards and coaches is that the vast majority of fanbases all think their coach is incompetent. Just go on the different forums and take a look.

Plus, most coaches in the league at this moment have been fired at least once (Trotz being the exception?). Michel Therrien, like other NHL coaches, are elite coaches. We, on the forums, are not elite coaches.

I find it hilarious that posters here consider that THEY know how a team should be coached... well if that's the case, then why aren't you coaching an AHL team, or even a team in the top leagues in Europe (or at the very least, coaching in juniors). In other words, most posters here commenting about coaching have absolutely no credibility.

There are 16 players on the current team that were on the team that finished at the bottom of the standings. The simple fact we even have a chance to qualify for the playoffs is a good sign that overall the management, the coach and the players have done so far a decent job.

 

[Andy]

The funny thing about HFboards and coaches is that the vast majority of fanbases all think their coach is incompetent. Just go on the different forums and take a look.

Plus, most coaches in the league at this moment have been fired at least once (Trotz being the exception?). Michel Therrien, like other NHL coaches, are elite coaches. We, on the forums, are not elite coaches.

I find it hilarious that posters here consider that THEY know how a team should be coached... well if that's the case, then why aren't you coaching an AHL team, or even a team in the top leagues in Europe (or at the very least, coaching in juniors). In other words, most posters here commenting about coaching have absolutely no credibility.

There are 16 players on the current team that were on the team that finished at the bottom of the standings. The simple fact we even have a chance to qualify for the playoffs is a good sign that overall the management, the coach and the players have done so far a decent job.

So when everyone complained about Martin and Gauthier they were wrong because they were just message board posters?

 

[Pricef*]

What???? You've never seen me be critical of the team? Why do people have to resort to fabrications to get their points across on here sometimes?

I've criticized Therrien plenty...but it's fans like you that are the joke...criticizing blindly over and over and over even when the team's winning because said player got less ice time than another. It's a broken ****ing record on here.

You don't look at the results..you search frantically for negatives because you are a naturally negative person .

Look at the bloody record!!!! why is everybody so displeased with this team?

Therrien makes lots of mistakes..every coach in the league make errors...but he's winning. The decisions he is making are resulting in wins.

You seriously think this team is better than its record? You really are blind.

Does it ever occur to all of you experts that the people running this team might just know more than you about hockey? Apparently that is impossible - there are hundreds of people on here every night who truly think they are better hockey men than the ones in charge.

That's the biggest joke of all.

You're my hero. No sarcasm.

 

[JAVO16]

Also, let's be honest guys. It's all fine and dandy to criticize the Canadiens thoroughly for the smallest mistake when you're an anonymous poster on a message board, but Grant has his real identity here and it wouldn't be professional to talk smack about the Canadiens/Therrien/Bergevin on a message board.

 

[Price is Wright]

So when everyone complained about Martin and Gauthier they were wrong because they were just message board posters?

Just because Montreal was right to fire both doesn't mean the fans were right about why they should be fired.

There are still people here who while they won't admit it, they hated Gauthier because he traded away Halak and kept THE GOLDEN BOY instead.

 

[Andy]

Also, let's be honest guys. It's all fine and dandy to criticize the Canadiens thoroughly for the smallest mistake when you're an anonymous poster on a message board, but Grant has his real identity here and it wouldn't be professional to talk smack about the Canadiens/Therrien/Bergevin on a message board.

But Grant has criticized MT, pretty heavily.

This whole appeal to authority is a bad argument.

 

[Pricef*]

Oh, I just wanted to clarify, Subban's turnover was brutal. I still wouldn't have benched him though, at some point the team needs to accept that in the case of a talented D like this, you need to take the good with the bad. He's been in the league for 5 years now, he's not a rookie.

It's the effort getting back that I had a problem with.

 

[Nedved]

The funny thing about HFboards and coaches is that the vast majority of fanbases all think their coach is incompetent. Just go on the different forums and take a look.

Plus, most coaches in the league at this moment have been fired at least once (Trotz being the exception?). Michel Therrien, like other NHL coaches, are elite coaches. We, on the forums, are not elite coaches.

I find it hilarious that posters here consider that THEY know how a team should be coached... well if that's the case, then why aren't you coaching an AHL team, or even a team in the top leagues in Europe (or at the very least, coaching in juniors). In other words, most posters here commenting about coaching have absolutely no credibility.

There are 16 players on the current team that were on the team that finished at the bottom of the standings. The simple fact we even have a chance to qualify for the playoffs is a good sign that overall the management, the coach and the players have done so far a decent job.

therrien is such a hot commodity when he left pittsburg.

I don't think I could coach this team, and I don't think I would get the respect therrien has...but, for me, the fact remains I think this team is better than the results we are seeing.

It looks like players are regressing, and we're still finding ways to win...but the habs looked 100 times better last year, when they were flying around controlling the game.

prior to cole leaving...this team had a good mix of guys and looked good as a TEAM. sure, dd cole pacioretty were not producing like the year before, but we were winning and very easily. we outshot, out played, out worked almost everyone. subban was dominating, markov emelin pairing looked solid, and everything was flying high.

sorry, going from cole to ryder to briere? maybe I'm still upset about that trade, and blame therrien for mb's decisions. but young guys should get better, not worse, as they learn the nhl game.

 

[hototogisu]

Carbonneau, Martin, Therrien, Cunneyworth... Not exactly an all-star lineup of coaches now is it? (And I do not want to start the whole French coach debate but that's a horrible list.)

I couldn't help but notice you stopped your list short of listing Vigneault and Julien, two other idiots who "had to be fired" when they were here.

Honestly, it doesn't matter. I don't even care. We could reanimate the corpses of Toe Blake and Pat Burns and give them Scotty Bowman as an assistant and I would still be reading the exact same garbage every day, just with the names switched around. I know because I've been reading it since even before I joined this board 8 years ago. It's so boring. Following the Habs must be such a bummer for some of you guys, I can't even imagine.

 

[Nedved]

I couldn't help but notice you stopped your list short of listing Vigneault and Julien, two other idiots who "had to be fired" when they were here.

Honestly, it doesn't matter. I don't even care. We could reanimate the corpses of Toe Blake and Pat Burns and give them Scotty Bowman as an assistant and I would still be reading the exact same garbage every day, just with the names switched around. I know because I've been reading it since even before I joined this board 8 years ago. It's so boring. Following the Habs must be such a bummer for some of you guys, I can't even imagine.

I liked carbo..and julien. thought they did well with what they had, and got the most out of their players.

carbo took us to 1st in the east, without the best team. I think he needed more specialist to help run the d, but I really believe he loss the team and that's why he was let go. not because of what he produced, because they were not a losing team with carbo.

actually, I really liked carbo.

 

[habitue*]

Some folks here should watch games between other teams. Maybe they would see as many mistakes, coaches blunders and talented players making bonehead plays, too.