Jtown
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I feel like voracek has chemistry with anyone he plays with, which is why id love to separate him and giroux.
GDT: PS Game #4| New Jersey at FLYERS |Thu., Sep. 25, 2014| 7:00 p.m. ET
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OrangeAndBlackMetal
Dark Wizard of the Black Cascade
Honestly, this would be my (healthy) lineup...
Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Umberger-Lecavalier-Akeson
-Laughton-Raffl
Streit-Coburn
MacDonald-Gostisbehere
Schenn-Del Zotto
Grossmann
Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Umberger-Lecavalier-Akeson
-Laughton-Raffl
Streit-Coburn
MacDonald-Gostisbehere
Schenn-Del Zotto
Grossmann
I'd put bellemare on that final LW position. I think that is a great 4 lines. Our 4th line would be very dangerous.
Jtown
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OrangeAndBlackMetal
Dark Wizard of the Black Cascade
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HEAVYHOCKEY ENTHUSIAST
just saw tonites goal by ghost...great shot. from what i saw of him in the ncaas his one- timer was awesome. something else hes gonna bring us especially on the pp. he is gonna be a weapon!
Jtown
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we need a legit 2c who can put up 50 pts atleast. and its not gonna be coots.
Schenn with voracek on his wing could put up 60 pts no joke
LegionOfDoom91
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CS
Bryzgalov's Blueline
You're right. We need a legitimate second line...
Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Read - Couturier - Voracek
Akeson - Lecavalier - Raffl
Umberger - Laughton - Bellemare
Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Read - Couturier - Voracek
Akeson - Lecavalier - Raffl
Umberger - Laughton - Bellemare
Jtown
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look i love coots. There is nothing i want more than for him to become the beast on offense we all hoped he would be. there is nothing i want to do more than go on the winnipeg board, the ottawa board, the florida board, and raise hell about them blowing it by not drafting coots.
He is not that guy, but that is ok. He is a dominate shutdown guy. He is more important to us in that 3rd line shutdown role than in a 2c scoring role where he is ill fitted.
He is not that guy, but that is ok. He is a dominate shutdown guy. He is more important to us in that 3rd line shutdown role than in a 2c scoring role where he is ill fitted.
HighOFFHockey
Co-Founder of The Flyers Nitty Gritty
He looks like he might have actually made the jump this year where he can play anywhere. Makes anyone he plays with look good. This season is getting more interesting by the day. The conditioning level is definitely noticeable from last season.
HighOFFHockey
Co-Founder of The Flyers Nitty Gritty
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
He can't put up 50 points? Are you kidding?
If he's not relied on to be the only real shut-down defense this team can muster he'll have a chance to score more. It's not like Read and Couturier have been paired with offensively oriented linemates either. Downie was horrible last year other than a week or two week long stretch when he decided to actually play hockey properly and during that time the line was great offensively and defensively. Even if we're completely ignoring his age and the fact that he can still absolutely improve then you still have to at least wait to see how he does this year, assuming Berube really intends on giving him more offensive opportunities, before making a statement like that.
Gostisbehere is damn awesome with puck! Not that It is surprise but he is quite dominating already on this level. I want to see him with big team so much. That power play with G and Ghost feeding each other, my god. He has absolutely deadly, quick and power release. We got an absolute steal here. IMO he has the potential to be the best defenseman from his draft class.
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Couturier put up 39 points while playing in a pure defensive role (3rd line center) at the age of 21. Really hard to say he cant put up 11 more points has he gets abit older, and doesnt play pure defensively and gets more offensive zone starts.
Side note. Vinny looked the best he has been since coming here (still had a few pucks BLOW off his stick. What is seriously up with that) with Raffl and Akeson. This is the Flyers though so we will see Umberger put back on that line instead.
Side note. Vinny looked the best he has been since coming here (still had a few pucks BLOW off his stick. What is seriously up with that) with Raffl and Akeson. This is the Flyers though so we will see Umberger put back on that line instead.
Curufinwe
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Couturier scored one less ES point than BSchenn did while facing much harder competition. He can absolutely be the 2C. Whether he scores 40 or 50 points hinges on PP production.
And they won't take our best winger away from our best center on the 1st line.
Also Raffl looked really good. You can tell the weight he put on really made him harder to take down. He would always fly when he got hit. He was taking hits last night real well, and with his speed it could be a deadly combo for the team.
Embiid
Off IR for now
He looked much more comfortable and assertive out there with the puck.....we have ourselves a diamond in the rough. He still needs to polish his game but I love how he mans the point and pinches..always moving his feet and he has very good shot selection and a hard shot. He should be a regular sometime this season but I would like him to start with the farm team and work with Murray.
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BringBackHakstol
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Really excited for Couturier and Raffl this season. I definitely think Couturier can score 50 points this season if he gets some more opportunities at even strength. Part of that might be contingent on who ends up making up our 4th line (if it's a good defensive unit or just a crappy "energy" line)
Raffl, I can see him putting up 40 pts. this season. His added strength is going to be a huge boost
Raffl, I can see him putting up 40 pts. this season. His added strength is going to be a huge boost
Curufinwe
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He will only get to 50 points if he scores 10+ points on the PP. Jake Voracek only had 39 ES points last season, so it's unrealistic to expect Coots to get more than that even if his ES minutes are less tough this year.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....rt=evenStrengthPoints&viewName=scoringLeaders
If the second PP unit plays well and Couturier is a big part of it, then he has a chance to score 50 points.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....rt=evenStrengthPoints&viewName=scoringLeaders
If the second PP unit plays well and Couturier is a big part of it, then he has a chance to score 50 points.
Prongo
Beer
Last night all of our youth really stepped up to the plate and performed very well. Ghost, Morin, Laughton(big time), and Leier were damn impressive. I am still big on Morin and love his potential and we can see he already is a good in his own zone. I really feel the offense will come, especially when he is fully grown and comfortable at his size. Ghost, we all saw what he brings, the lateral movement was extremely impressive as well. Foot speed is no issue with any of them, as we all saw how long Morin's strides are that help him cover a ton of ice. Ghost is much more quick but they look like they can keep up with each other.
Now Laughton, I have said I don't think he tops out as a 40 point player in the NHL. He really did remind me of "he who shall not be named" last night. He is really coming into his own and I love we are letting these kids take time to develop. Laughton has better speed though than the player everyone compares him to. He attacked the net hard which is something you always want to see out of your forwards. Same with Leier. They are not afraid to battle and that is such an exciting part of their game. Schenn is playing good hockey as well, smart decisions and is scoring. I am in the minority(I know Flyersfan61290 or close) agrees that people are a little too harsh on him. He is showing(I know preseason!) that when given top opportunity he is producing. I see big things out of Schenn, Couts, and Laughton in the near future.
The one aspect of Morins game I would like to see him improve is his angles when attacking players in the corners. He should just watch tape of Pronger in that regard, he would submerge you and there was no getting away from him. Morin sometimes takes the wrong angle where a players can make a move and escape. I am sure it's something he will improve with time though.
Now Laughton, I have said I don't think he tops out as a 40 point player in the NHL. He really did remind me of "he who shall not be named" last night. He is really coming into his own and I love we are letting these kids take time to develop. Laughton has better speed though than the player everyone compares him to. He attacked the net hard which is something you always want to see out of your forwards. Same with Leier. They are not afraid to battle and that is such an exciting part of their game. Schenn is playing good hockey as well, smart decisions and is scoring. I am in the minority(I know Flyersfan61290 or close) agrees that people are a little too harsh on him. He is showing(I know preseason!) that when given top opportunity he is producing. I see big things out of Schenn, Couts, and Laughton in the near future.
The one aspect of Morins game I would like to see him improve is his angles when attacking players in the corners. He should just watch tape of Pronger in that regard, he would submerge you and there was no getting away from him. Morin sometimes takes the wrong angle where a players can make a move and escape. I am sure it's something he will improve with time though.
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Danko
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That game was very impressive all around. All the prospects looked good.
Still like what im seeing from Jones and Gordon as well...huge difference from last year in terms of competition created in camp. I like that Hextall did two way contracts for a lot of guys.
Laughton is ready and wants to make the team so bad, hopefully he continues to show it this preseason.
Ghost is really close as well, I would take him over most of our current D. In the same breath, i think that if he had a year to dominate at the AHL level that would really help his development.
Morin needs to dominate at Junior this year and show more of what he has learned working with the trainers and staff this preseason. If he can go and play 20 minutes a night in junior and get physically stronger (not bigger or gain weight but just improve overall strength) he may make the team out of camp next year.
Still like what im seeing from Jones and Gordon as well...huge difference from last year in terms of competition created in camp. I like that Hextall did two way contracts for a lot of guys.
Laughton is ready and wants to make the team so bad, hopefully he continues to show it this preseason.
Ghost is really close as well, I would take him over most of our current D. In the same breath, i think that if he had a year to dominate at the AHL level that would really help his development.
Morin needs to dominate at Junior this year and show more of what he has learned working with the trainers and staff this preseason. If he can go and play 20 minutes a night in junior and get physically stronger (not bigger or gain weight but just improve overall strength) he may make the team out of camp next year.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
Stortini got beat by Grossmann in a loose puck drill
LMAO
Bill Meltzer @billmeltzer · 1h
Loose puck "race" between Grossmann and Stortini. Nick won.
LMAO
Bill Meltzer @billmeltzer · 1h
Loose puck "race" between Grossmann and Stortini. Nick won.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
you know you suck when a guy with 50 pounds of cement in his skates beats you in a race to a loose puck
