Lots of people promise the future, but I'm into results. You don't think I'm pulling for Reinhart to become hopefully a top-pairing shutdown D-man? Dumba is better right now and that's something.
I think you missed the point. The point is, the guy that makes the NHL first is not always the guy that has the better career. In fact, there's a large amount of examples that show the exact opposite, especially when it comes to defensemen. It means jack **** at this point that Dumba is in the NHL doing what he's doing and I'd bet you money Reinhart will be better in two years time.
However forgetting him for a second...For me Reinhart has not impressed me since turning pro. I hope I'm wrong, but if you asked me right now to project who will have the better overall career no doubt I pick Pulock (and yes I'm aware their games are very different).
I bet you would. I think Pulock will have a fine career, but Reinhart will make the team next season and begin his ascension into becoming a top four guy. Evetually he'll end up on the top pairing. Players with his intelligence and cool head are rare.
I don't even know why Dumba is being brought up, if you want to talk about the one that got away it was Trouba who has been a much better defenseman up to this point. Hell then there is Filip Forsberg
I wouldn't be surprised is Dumba becomes a consistent 45+ point guy but his defensive lapses will drive people crazy
Dumba reminds me of David Tanabe. He's all tools no toolbox. I bet he fizzles out over time into a Keith Ballard type.
You are correct, Forsberg is the one that got away... from a lot of teams. Washington made the biggest mistake there.
That said, Reinhart will be like Ryan Suter. There's a reason why he's unanimously viewed as can't-miss by pro scouts. Highly intelligent, ice water in his veins. He's just not as good of a skater as Suter.
Ryan took a long time to come around and guys like Phaneuf were making a bigger impact earlier on. Fans were oogling. Ryan Suter was still thought of as having higher upside by a lot of scouts, but fans jumped on the guy that was doing it then.
I see the Dumba/Reinhart discussion playing out the same way. For some reason Reinhart has lost favor on these boards, even to guys like Pelech/Mayfield which is absurd. They are not and will not be in his class.
I think people here need to close hockeydb.com and just take a breath. If you aren't watching him, then don't grasp at numbers to try and extrapolate some sort of conclusion as to his development. Numbers mean nothing at this point. He's right on track to be the stud he was expected to be. It takes time, but he's still the gem he always was.