Prospect Info: Prospect Info and Discussion VIII - Future Canes and other Jurcos

[bleedgreen]

Check out the Checkers highlights from last night. His skating doesn't appear to be an issue on his 3-on-3 OT game-winner.

Well I watched. I don’t get it. The camera work is awful, I had to read the box score just to figure out for sure that was him. I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m just saying I have no idea how you could tell he’s skating well on that play? It’s a two on one from an on ice camera where you don’t see him until the second before he takes the pass.

Gauthier’s goal was borderline shocking good, and even that one was tough to really see from the camera work.

I’m more than willing to watch some video of the guy and have the talk. That can’t be the video we use though.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Well I watched. I don’t get it. The camera work is awful, I had to read the box score just to figure out for sure that was him. I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m just saying I have no idea how you could tell he’s skating well on that play? It’s a two on one from an on ice camera where you don’t see him until the second before he takes the pass.

Gauthier’s goal was borderline shocking good, and even that one was tough to really see from the camera work.

I’m more than willing to watch some video of the guy and have the talk. That can’t be the video we use though.

I must've seen a different highlight. In the one I saw, it was a 1-on-1 until Saarela beat his guy starting from the defensive blue line.

 

[emptyNedder]

I’m more than willing to watch some video of the guy and have the talk. That can’t be the video we use though.

I must've seen a different highlight. In the one I saw, it was a 1-on-1 until Saarela beat his guy starting from the defensive blue line.

I have watched parts of 60 or so of the Checkers games. My view is that you are both correct.
Saarela is one of the fastest Checkers along with Necas, Gauthier, and Bishop.
However, his strength is straight-line speed. The play last night was a great example. Saarela has blown by defenders multiple times this season. However, as BG mentioned about training camp, Saarela's skating in traffic is average. He is much better skating "to the puck." In open ice his speed is noticeable, in close quarters he is not nearly as explosive.

 

[bleedgreen]

In camp he literally fell down trying to adjust to an off pass in relatively tight quarters. Twice. He was unmarked both times and the quarters really weren’t THAT tight. It looked like he was really sloppy in general whenever he had to make changes in direction or adaptation to plays.

In straight lines Zykov wasn’t that bad.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Fox no win hobey Baker Cale Makar wins.

 

[emptyNedder]

In his first two professional playoff games Helvig has two wins: 3-2 in OT and 4-1.

GAA--1.42, Sv%--.929.

A big question for next season is if Ned makes the Canes will Charlotte be willing to have two rookies in Booth and Helvig in net?

 

[ookhaab]

In his first two professional playoff games Helvig has two wins: 3-2 in OT and 4-1.

GAA--1.42, Sv%--.929.

A big question for next season is if Ned makes the Canes will Charlotte be willing to have two rookies in Booth and Helvig in net?

Well I mean Darling may be there......................

 

[FaulkYouAho]

In his first two professional playoff games Helvig has two wins: 3-2 in OT and 4-1.

GAA--1.42, Sv%--.929.

A big question for next season is if Ned makes the Canes will Charlotte be willing to have two rookies in Booth and Helvig in net?

more than likely, both goalies have been great down there and deserve it, but i could see Helvig staying in the E next year. i have no idea what goalie will turn out the best between Helvig Booth or Nedejkovic, my bet is on Helvig but it could be any of the 3. Helvig could pull a ned or could pull a Booth, (Ned is one year E 2 A Booth is 2 years E 1+Years A).

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Well I mean Darling may be there......................

Don’t see that as a possibility at all but you’re probably joking anyway.

 

[emptyNedder]

Helvig could pull a ned or could pull a Booth, (Ned is one year E 2 A Booth is 2 years E 1+Years A).

Jokes aside, the reason Booth spent most of this season in the ECHL was Darling being in Charlotte. I think the plan was Ned and Booth in Charlotte and Helvig in Florida.

 

[The Jerk Store]

(Ned is one year E 2 A Booth is 2 years E 1+Years A).

 

[Eye of Ra]

if sellgren dont turn into a good nhler i will be super shocked. you guys got yourself a gem.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

if sellgren dont turn into a good nhler i will be super shocked. you guys got yourself a gem.

If he busts that would be number one bullshit.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Fox no win hobey Baker Cale Makar wins.

Good. f*** him.

 

[emptyNedder]

Booth stopped 48 of 49 in 2 OT 2-1 win. This after 40 shot shutout on Thursday. His playoff line 6-1, 1.14 GAA, .960 sv%.
Following the development of Booth and Helvig is going to be amazing.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Booth stopped 48 of 49 in 2 OT 2-1 win. This after 40 shot shutout on Thursday. His playoff line 6-1, 1.14 GAA, .960 sv%.
Following the development of Booth and Helvig is going to be amazing.

Surprised Helvig lost the starting job considering how good he was in the regular season.

 

[NotOpie]

Surprised Helvig lost the starting job considering how good he was in the regular season.

Helvig is now the back up goalie in Charlotte while Ned was up here.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Helvig is now the back up goalie in Charlotte while Ned was up here.

His stats through 4 playoff games this year aren’t great. .873 sv %.

Did he really get called up to back up Tokarski? Darling was with the team at the end of the year. Pretty sad if he can’t even dress as a backup for a game.

 

[emptyNedder]

Mentioned this in the Checkers thread. Both Gauthier and Saarela had highlight reel goals last night.
Gauthier used his combination of speed and power. I have mentioned it a few times now but I was not a Gauthier fan as recently as late January. Since then I have seen a right-shot power forward who looks like a good bet to succeed in the NHL.
Saarela's goal was due to one of the quickest releases I have seen at any level.
I really hope to see both of these players receive a tryout on the third line in the preseason.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Love to see that it looks like Gauthier may be putting it all together. We always knew he would take a while to develop - really hope he can be an impact player in the NHL

 

[Helsinki Hurricanes]

Here is Finland's projected lineup vs team Canada:

For Canes fans, interesting (Finnish) players to follow: Canes prospect Eetu Luostarinen as 3C and top prospect Kaapo Kakko aa 2RW.

Finnish NT is extremely weak this year with little to no NHL players, meaning Luostarinen and other young guns should have a chance to get good minutes.

 

[SlavinAway]

Go E2!

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Here is Finland's projected lineup vs team Canada:

For Canes fans, interesting (Finnish) players to follow: Canes prospect Eetu Luostarinen as 3C and top prospect Kaapo Kakko aa 2RW.

Finnish NT is extremely weak this year with little to no NHL players, meaning Luostarinen and other young guns should have a chance to get good minutes.

Did you, by any chance, get to see our other Finn, Lenni Killinen, play this year?

 

[Helsinki Hurricanes]

Did you, by any chance, get to see our other Finn, Lenni Killinen, play this year?

This year I have been watching more NHL and Hurricanes games than Liiga games. Additionally, Killinen plays for my team's rival team Ässät.

I took a quick look at some Finnish news sources and message boards (local hfboards equivalent) so all of this is based on second hand knowledge and stats.

3+8=11 points in 32 games seems decent for a young rookie. However, upon closer inspection he had 1+3=4 points after his first 9 games meaning he cooled down a bit later in the season. He also had an injury in the middle of the season which could explain slowing down. He was -4 but that's actually quite decent since his team was worst in the league. Average playing time was 13:20 which surprised me as I think he was playing in bottom-6 and mainly in the 4th line.

The consensus regarding him seems to be that he's smart and versatile player. He's considered to be quite raw and the expectation is that this year was just to get experience and next year he could gain some opportunities in a more scoring role. Finnish Liiga is old-man's league and young players usually take a while to get going (unless you are exception like Barkov, Laine, Aho, Pulju, Rantanen etc.).

My guess is that next year he could do some damage at the Liiga. I believe he's at least one, more likely two full seasons away from coming potentially to North America (where at least 1 or 2 AHL seasons will take place). As a 4th rounder, I think he has progressed as he managed to get regular playing time in Liiga as opposed to juniors where he played last season.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

This year I have been watching more NHL and Hurricanes games than Liiga games. Additionally, Killinen plays for my team's rival team Ässät.

I took a quick look at some Finnish news sources and message boards (local hfboards equivalent) so all of this is based on second hand knowledge and stats.

3+8=11 points in 32 games seems decent for a young rookie. However, upon closer inspection he had 1+3=4 points after his first 9 games meaning he cooled down a bit later in the season. He also had an injury in the middle of the season which could explain slowing down. He was -4 but that's actually quite decent since his team was worst in the league. Average playing time was 13:20 which surprised me as I think he was playing in bottom-6 and mainly in the 4th line.

The consensus regarding him seems to be that he's smart and versatile player. He's considered to be quite raw and the expectation is that this year was just to get experience and next year he could gain some opportunities in a more scoring role. Finnish Liiga is old-man's league and young players usually take a while to get going (unless you are exception like Barkov, Laine, Aho, Pulju, Rantanen etc.).

My guess is that next year he could do some damage at the Liiga. I believe he's at least one, more likely two full seasons away from coming potentially to North America (where at least 1 or 2 AHL seasons will take place). As a 4th rounder, I think he has progressed as he managed to get regular playing time in Liiga as opposed to juniors where he played last season.

Thank you for your insight. Much appreciated