CantHaveTkachev
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Kawhi won a Championship...Pronger did not
Podcast (Audio) Pronger on SC
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Interesting tidbit about him nearly ending up in Toronto.
Kaberle, Stajan and two firsts he said, Lowe wanted Steen instead of Stajan.
I'd argue that those firsts weren't a part of the deal. Things would've turned out very differently had that deal gone down.
Kaberle, Stajan and two firsts he said, Lowe wanted Steen instead of Stajan.
I'd argue that those firsts weren't a part of the deal. Things would've turned out very differently had that deal gone down.
One game that was a coin flip, so what. And the only reason the Raptors won is because they got a miracle in Durant and Klay both injuring themselves lets be honest, the only reason we didn't win that Final is because of the Roloson injury and even then they damn near won it.
I'd do that Pronger trade over 100/100 times, even knowing he'd want out within a year.
Where is Eric Brewer taking you? Nowhere.
Also this puts a pretty big slant on the whole "your locker room needs to have perfect harmony!" nonsense. Pronger didn't even want to be here, Torres and Stoll were acting problematically, yet that group had more success than any other Oilers team in 30 years.
CantHaveTkachev
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he's probably a good teammate though...locker room "issues" are always blown out of proportion
I think if that deal was on the table, Lowe would have taken it and ran. Kaberle was not Pronger at the time, but still a legitimate No.1 puck moving defensemen. Stajan had a solid career too.
he was good on ice. there was no way that bunch of players would have gotten to the final without the asshole)) In my experience playing competitive soccer, I recall more than one team mate with questionable ethics, but it's never a factor on the field. You don't have to be friends with anybody, you have to get the job done where it matters.
Jumptheshark
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The Bill of good was that the oiler said his wife would like it in Edmonton and she did not. That is the bill of goods he is talking about
Stoll and Torres we already knew
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There were no locker room issues with Chris Pronger.
Oilers fans like to believe that since they don't like him that he was somehow also unpopular among his teammates.
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Doesn't have to be harmony. Listen to him talk about culture/leadership from about 1:13:30 onwards. https://player.fm/series/spittin-chiclets-1550122/spittin-chiclets-episode-249-ft-chris-pronger
It's about accountability and professionalism. Guys holding each other accountable to certain standards. Supporting and encouraging one another.
100% you would make that trade again. Maybe they should’ve taken the kaberle one instead but yea they lost a flip basically.
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Here's an article in the archives
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Kevin Lowe and the Chris Pronger deal: "I trust Kevin Lowe."
- Cal Nichols advocating divorce and makes it clear it was Lauren who wanted out.
- TSN out of respect for the Oilers request, did not report on the Pronger trade request until after the Stanley Cup finals were over (to not be a distraction).
- Pronger and his wife took the guaranteed money, which at that time was one of the highest salaries after the new CBA. They came in here not knowing much about the city.
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- Somewhat respect Chris for not throwing his wife under the bus - unlike Bryan Colangelo.
- That said, Chris has smeared the city, including making false allegation of a jersey burning party since.
PressReader.com - Your favorite newspapers and magazines.
Kevin Lowe and the Chris Pronger deal: "I trust Kevin Lowe."
- Cal Nichols advocating divorce and makes it clear it was Lauren who wanted out.
- TSN out of respect for the Oilers request, did not report on the Pronger trade request until after the Stanley Cup finals were over (to not be a distraction).
- Pronger and his wife took the guaranteed money, which at that time was one of the highest salaries after the new CBA. They came in here not knowing much about the city.
__________
- Somewhat respect Chris for not throwing his wife under the bus - unlike Bryan Colangelo.
- That said, Chris has smeared the city, including making false allegation of a jersey burning party since.
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Not so sure about that. I doubt Samsonov or Spacek ever would have re-signed.
Pronger is a dick, but if he wanted a professional working environment I can totally see him wanting out. Management wasn't professional and obviously guys like Torres were into some stuff they should not have been.
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Pronger took 4 teams to the SCF, winning one cup in Anaheim.
That’s f***ing incredible.
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yeah he's a great player...I'm just saying Raptor fans aren't mad at Kawhi for leaving cause he led them to a Championship
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He led Edmonton to their best run in 30 years. Can’t fault the guy for taking the team to Game 7 of the SCF with a backup goalie.
Well, if he lost in anaheim, he would have been called the biggest choker in the history of professional sports)) I don't what he's like as a person, and, frankly, who cares. He was one of the best, if not the best defensemen in the past 20 years. Maybe Lidstrom was as good, but I would still take Pronger.
His wife had taken the kids and moved back to St. Louis without him. He was a jerk and there were rumours that he was not the best husband in the world to put it mildly, but he basically did it to keep his family together. If he had been honest about that at the time I would have been a lot more sympathetic.
Weird that Pronger's "issues" led him out of edmonton, but not, supposedly, out of St. Louis...
