Podcast (Audio) Pronger on SC

[CantHaveTkachev]

he'll never throw his wife under the bus but she didn't like here and she wanted out

too bad Lowe got magic beans for him...set this franchise back years

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Lost whatever heart he had left from that slapshot to the chest.

 

[TheRebuild]

Eh. The team was never going to recreate the magic from that run. I’m glad he left when he did. I just wish they would have traded him to the east and found a lot more for him. Basically gifted the ducks their cup by trading him there.

 

[Soundwave]

Eh. The team was never going to recreate the magic from that run. I’m glad he left when he did. I just wish they would have traded him to the east and found a lot more for him. Basically gifted the ducks their cup by trading him there.

They probably would've made the playoffs again the following year and won some rounds, but SCF again ... probably not.

 

[Ol' Jase]

Lol.

Everyone to a person that had firsthand dealings with Pronger during his tenure here knows he was a complete asshole

 

[bucks_oil]

Didn't many of those acquired pieces and Peca leave as UFA in the offseason though? At that point the roster looked to be weaker than the one who barely made the payoffs.

Now, who knows what the brilliant minds beyond our leadership promissed him.

On another hand Pronger seems to be a ....... can I say it?

Pronger asked for a trade like 6 days after the cup... actually, apparently he’d asked for a trade mid season

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Anybody got a link?

 

[Soundwave]

Pronger asked for a trade like 6 days after the cup... actually, apparently he’d asked for a trade mid season

To be honest I got to give him props, because knowing that he still played his ass off for the stretch run + playoffs instead of just moping and mailing it in.

I still think 2006 is the best hockey he ever played. Head and shoulders better than Lidstrom and Neidermayer in those playoffs head to head.

 

[Bangers]

Can't understand him when he speaks as I'm not fluent in douche bag.

 

[bucks_oil]

To be honest I got to give him props, because knowing that he still played his ass off for the stretch run + playoffs instead of just moping and mailing it in.

I still think 2006 is the best hockey he ever played. Head and shoulders better than Lidstrom and Neidermayer in those playoffs head to head.

Well, as I am sure we are all familiar, being a douchebag certainly doesn't stop you from being competitive.

 

[Dynamic]

It is water under the bridge now, no sense being angry about it. It was never going to be a long term thing here in Edmonton so I am just glad I got to see what a true #1 defensemen is. He was heads and shoulders above his competition that year and an absolute beast in the playoffs. I remember watching him and realizing early on he was literally working half as hard as other defensmen and still more effective. That reach was incredible. His first pass out of the zone was elite. I could tell by that interview he was full of himself and a bit of a douche but 2006 does not happen without him. Not even close.

I find it weird that after we seen what a true #1 defensmen can do for a team, after losing Pronger we never pursued one again. Does the decade of doom happen if we try to replace Pronger with another true #1.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I didn't like Pronger even before he came here due to his NHLPA stance regarding the elimination of small market clubs many of which just happened to be Canadian market teams. This is what pronger believed in and stated, that small market clubs that were not competitive or "viable" in a precap NHL should be eliminated. That's what he worked towards in his NHLPA work.

Imagine a Canadian hockey player taking that pov. Who could do that, who could be proud of that.

Thankfully, the NHL, after a Quebec and Winnipeg heinous mistake started to better realize that Canadian markets continued to be important, viable, and represent much of the strength of the league.

But I had trouble with the irony of a Chris Pronger, who stated the Edmonton Oilers shouldn't exist, later agreeing to play for and get paid by that team when it was Convenient for him and he needed a capspace place to land.

Theres no words for the hypocrisy involved in that.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

Said players decided a mass exodus after the best defenseman in the NHL demanded a trade 4 days after being eliminated in game 7 of the Stanley cup final. Had Pronger not nailed the team would have remained mostly intact.

Hahaha this is the greatest Freudian slip

 

[backhandsauce]

I think Pronger said the other offer was Kaberle, Steen and a 1st? Toronto didn't want to part with Steen and offered Stajan instead....

 

[Canovin]

Never understood the hype around Pronger. I honestly thought the Oilers got lucky against Detroit. I thought Roloson, Hemsky, Horcoff, Pasani were good in the 06 run.

 

[oXo Cube]

They probably would've made the playoffs again the following year and won some rounds, but SCF again ... probably not.

Statistically the 05-06 Oilers were the best defensive team in the NHL. They would have run away with the division if they didn't play 3 quarters of the season on .880 goaltending.

Regardless I think Peca and Spacek were gone even if Pronger sticks around so combine that with Stoll and Torres chilling from their career high totals and you have to imagine there is regression there.

 

[Tw0Shoes]

Most of you guys are too you g to remember but there were a lot of rumors about him cheating on his wife. Him and Marty reasoner had quite the bar hopping reputation back then.

Funny how he brings up Stoll and Torres. Pronger was really no different.

Didn't Stoll get caught with coke?
Maybe it wasn't about the bar...

 

[Arpeggio]

There isn't a defenceman in the league right now that is as good as Pronger was. I'm not sure there's a bigger douche in the league either. He's just one of those guys.

 

[Arpeggio]

Didn't Stoll get caught with coke?
Maybe it wasn't about the bar...

I still hear stories about Stoll and Torres, they lived hard in Edmonton.

 

[Senor Catface]

Never understood the hype around Pronger. I honestly thought the Oilers got lucky against Detroit. I thought Roloson, Hemsky, Horcoff, Pasani were good in the 06 run.

I don't know...

He was averaging over half a game of icetime a game, led our team in points in the playoffs..

I think of all his playoff runs, ours was one of his best.

 

[oXo Cube]

There isn't a defenceman in the league right now that is as good as Pronger was. I'm not sure there's a bigger douche in the league either. He's just one of those guys.

This is definitely true.

Pronger was pretty inconsistent but the hot streak version of the player was definitely better than anyone in the league is today. Not really close either IMO.

 

[oXo Cube]

I don't know...

He was averaging over half a game of icetime a game, led our team in points in the playoffs..

I think of all his playoff runs, ours was one of his best.

One of? The 2006 playoffs are bar none the best ~25 game stretch of hockey the guy ever played, which for him is really saying something.

He was excellent again in 2010 but not on the same level.

 

[backhandsauce]

As much as we all dislike the guy, he to me is probably the best all around defenseman there is or was. He could do it all.

 

[Aceboogie]

Surprised he still has this much hate. Guy was basically 75% of the reason we went to the 06 finals (let alone make the playoffs). He was a main reason for perhaps the most joy this franchise has had in what, 28 years?

Id rather have what happened, vs not trading for him and never sniffing the cup finals. We knew what we were getting in Pronger and his attitude

 

[Senor Catface]

One of? The 2006 playoffs are bar none the best ~25 game stretch of hockey the guy ever played, which for him is really saying something.

He was excellent again in 2010 but not on the same level.

Yeah, I think the same, but I was just being a bit more neutral due to my bias on that run.