Eklund Rumor: Preds listening on Saros

[Sasha Orlov]

Oilers can't offer up the same package that the Sabres can, assuming that IF (and that's a big, huge, mega if) Saros is traded it's for futures/young players.

Oilers can't compete with the Devils either, assuming a futures/young-based package.

If Saros really is on the block for futures/young players, it'll be a bidding war between the Devils and Sabres.

Sabres are rebuilding still, how much can they afford to give up in terms of picks and prospects? The Devils are a different story of course

Edmonton should be willing to part with at least two 1sts and their best prospect to fix this problem

 

[Unspecified]

I don't have the time to create a brand or run a rumor account but I swear I could link logical fits and maybe bat 5-15% on success rates and then claim to be an insider.

Oh i know why but i wont say why here. The guy has no more insider information than me and you EXCEPT with the Flyers and then its marginal at best.

 

[Zman5778]

Sabres are rebuilding still, how much can they afford to give up in terms of picks and prospects?

THEORETICALLY SPEAKING......we could offer up our 2024 1st (unprotected), Savoie, Rosen PLUS something and STILL have a fantastic prospect pool. Hell, in theory, we could offer up Quinn or JJP in place of a top prospect and STILL be fine.

The only thing we don't really have to offer is defensemen unless Nashville wanted to take a swing on Mats Lindgren.

 

[BondraTime]

Eklund special

 

[I am not exposed]

Ek’s track record from what I remember isnt horrible.

FWIW about 35% of the fanbase is ready to jettison saros to a contender.

Almost 50% want to see Saros get traded if we are not a playoff team in 24 (we are not playoff team)

per the article

Edmonton, NJ, Carolina were specifically mentioned.

Asking price is a 1st + sweeteners

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Preds Listening to offers on Juuse Saros (E4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

April fools?

 

[TGWL]

Sabres are rebuilding still, how much can they afford to give up in terms of picks and prospects? The Devils are a different story of course

Edmonton should be willing to part with at least two 1sts and their best prospect to fix this problem

Teams usually give up protected first. Sabres have been rebuilding for a long time, or so it seems. They have plenty of young talent. If you think Levi is the guy, than this makes 0 sense. But Sabres are a team that can give up assets. Problem is Nashville a lot of draft picks. So I'm not really sure what they're looking for. If it's ready now or just high picks.

Edmonton can't part with 2 first and their best prospect, then turn around and sign Saros long term and at a potential high cap. They would need to get rid of Campbell, even more so than the current bury.

 

[Detroit Knights]

What would they offer?

No idea, because I don't know what nashville would want. With what our offensive numbers are, we should be winning much more games than we have, the defense and goaltending has been suspect at best. So, probably all of our nhl goalies are available, I wouldn't rule out the 1st rounder being available, but again, I don't know what nashville is looking for. Are they looking for picks and prospects? If so, then I would do a couple of seconds and a a-/b+ prospect depending on defense or forward need for nashvilles prospect pool.

April fools?

no silly it's november

 

[Soundgarden]

No idea, because I don't know what nashville would want. With what our offensive numbers are, we should be winning much more games than we have, the defense and goaltending has been suspect at best. So, probably all of our nhl goalies are available, I wouldn't rule out the 1st rounder being available, but again, I don't know what nashville is looking for. Are they looking for picks and prospects? If so, then I would do a couple of seconds and a a-/b+ prospect depending on defense or forward need for nashvilles prospect pool.


no silly it's november

Would you give up Edvinsson or Danielson for him?

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Eklund clearly has an "inside source" on HF Preds.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Would you give up Edvinsson or Danielson for him?

honestly no. I know saros is a pretty big deal and I'd be willing to lose very good players but danielson looks like another larkin (regardless of what fans of other teams believe, larkin is a very good center and has been on very bad teams his first 7 years) and have a 1-2 punch of larkin/danielson and Kasper sitting there, we can't really get rid of. We haven't had centers in our pipeline that were worth it for forever.

Edvinsson is looking more and more like a possible heir to a lidstrom-esque type of defenseman, can't do that unless something egregious (probably personal/off ice if anything) happens.

I'd probably give up wallinder in our defense and he is closer to an a- prospect.

 

[HoseEmDown]

How long do you think it takes to develop into an NHL starter exactly? Askarov turned 21 in the summer. Realistically he isn't going to challenge for a true starting job until age 25/26. Saros shared the net with Rinne at ages 24 and 25, then took over fully at 26. Shesterkin became the starter at age 25, Sorokin took over at age 26.

There is also the idea that Saros could be a great mentor for Askarov. Not to mention at the end of the day the league is still gate driven and Nashville isn't a big market team. Selling Saros could result is a huge loss in team money without even a guarantee at a superstar prospect from a bit higher drafting.

All im saying is it's not as simple as one or the other

Vasilevskiy, Hart and Oettinger all became staters at around 22. So have Askarov stay in the AHL a little longer and if you sell Saros at the deadline bring him up to play the rest of the season and be the starter next year. The only way a guy is becoming a starter at 25/26 is if they don't come over to NA till they're like 24 or just a late bloomer. High end guys that are already over here will be ready much sooner or at least will be thrown out there to be.

 

[jonu]

Eklund is the Jim Cramer of these circles

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Vasilevskiy, Hart and Oettinger all became staters at around 22. So have Askarov stay in the AHL a little longer and if you sell Saros at the deadline bring him up to play the rest of the season and be the starter next year. The only way a guy is becoming a starter at 25/26 is if they don't come over to NA till they're like 24 or just a late bloomer. High end guys that are already over here will be ready much sooner or at least will be thrown out there to be.

You are naming some guys with pretty big resumes. Vasy took the starting job from Bishop at age 22 and yas since been a consistent top 3 goalie in the league.
Hart was brought up way too early and rushed into a starting job. His struggles here and there are proof of that.
And Oettinger took over the job at 23 not 22.

Honestly this post is quite troll. You chose the 3 guys since like Carry Price to get a starting job at that young of an age(I guess Matt Murray too but his case is weird). Swayman is doing just fine in a 1B role. Knight is still figuring it out. Kotchetkov is still the #3. Gustafsson is still splitting starts. Georgiev, Vanecek, Jarry, Samsonov, and Demko all become a starter at 26. Bobrovsky at 25, Vejmelka 25, Ullmark at 27, Markstrom, 27.

Sure I guess Hellebuyck and Gibson became their teams starters at 23 but again those are 2 of the best goalies to play in the last 15 years.

Again though my point is signing Saros does bot mean they have to trade Askarov, and keeping Askarov does not mean they have to trade Saros. You do whats vest for your team and if running 2 strong goalies is whats best then so be it. Personally I really like Boston's situation where they have 2 goalies every night that can reliably win them the game

 

[herzausstein]

On its face, it should be a no brainer that Nashville wouldnt immediately turn away trade offers on Saros. Doesnt mean theyll just accept anything but the team is in the basement early this season and in a retool. If someone wants to offer us something that is hard to turn away, we should genuinely entertain the idea.

 

[ole ole]

Ek’s track record from what I remember isnt horrible.

FWIW about 35% of the fanbase is ready to jettison saros to a contender.

Almost 50% want to see Saros get traded if we are not a playoff team in 24 (we are not playoff team)

per the article

Edmonton, NJ, Carolina were specifically mentioned.

Asking price is a 1st + sweeteners

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Preds Listening to offers on Juuse Saros (E4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

Depending on what the sweeteners they should be interested.

I mean they need to either trade Saros or Askarov. There’s no point to sign Saros to a long term deal and keep one of the best goalie prospects in hockey as a backup for 5+ years ?

If they are rebuilding, clearly trading Saros is the best option, clears a lot of cap space

Enough said.

 

[ole ole]

Sarros can't sign an extension until July, as he has 1 more season after this one. Might as well listen and see what the offers are. Askarov, numbers wise in the A last season and this has been very good. I mean, they passed on taking Lundell to draft Askarov in 2020.

Add to that Sarros value is at it's peak. If Askarov is your future than you take the right offer for Sarros if it comes, when ever it comes.

 

[ole ole]

I guess the question here is what is the plan for the Preds next two - three years? Are they fully rebuilding or will still try to compete ? If it’s the former, trading Saros seems like a better idea

If they believe that Askarov will be ready to step in next season then trading Saros is the smart thig to do. With the assets they get back = a better team

 

[theguardianII]

Add to that Sarros value is at it's peak. If Askarov is your future than you take the right offer for Sarros if it comes, when ever it comes.

Maybe that is why Saros isn't playing so great. He knows he is on the block

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Eklund still has an online presence?

Haven't heard his name in years and obviously wouldn't have broken one thing in that time.

Why is he still given the time of day by anyone?

 

[ole ole]

On its face, it should be a no brainer that Nashville wouldnt immediately turn away trade offers on Saros. Doesnt mean theyll just accept anything but the team is in the basement early this season and in a retool. If someone wants to offer us something that is hard to turn away, we should genuinely entertain the idea.

Exactly.

 

[Oddbob]

Ek’s track record from what I remember isnt horrible.

FWIW about 35% of the fanbase is ready to jettison saros to a contender.

Almost 50% want to see Saros get traded if we are not a playoff team in 24 (we are not playoff team)

per the article

Edmonton, NJ, Carolina were specifically mentioned.

Asking price is a 1st + sweeteners

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Preds Listening to offers on Juuse Saros (E4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

The guy is like 0 for 6 million.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

EK's track record makes you question if a broken clock is actually right twice.

Trading Saros now would make zero sense given how aggression Nashville was in getting UFAs. They'll just punt on this season if it comes to that and try to rebound next.

 

[HoseEmDown]

You are naming some guys with pretty big resumes. Vasy took the starting job from Bishop at age 22 and yas since been a consistent top 3 goalie in the league.
Hart was brought up way too early and rushed into a starting job. His struggles here and there are proof of that.
And Oettinger took over the job at 23 not 22.

Honestly this post is quite troll. You chose the 3 guys since like Carry Price to get a starting job at that young of an age(I guess Matt Murray too but his case is weird). Swayman is doing just fine in a 1B role. Knight is still figuring it out. Kotchetkov is still the #3. Gustafsson is still splitting starts. Georgiev, Vanecek, Jarry, Samsonov, and Demko all become a starter at 26. Bobrovsky at 25, Vejmelka 25, Ullmark at 27, Markstrom, 27.

Sure I guess Hellebuyck and Gibson became their teams starters at 23 but again those are 2 of the best goalies to play in the last 15 years.

Again though my point is signing Saros does bot mean they have to trade Askarov, and keeping Askarov does not mean they have to trade Saros. You do whats vest for your team and if running 2 strong goalies is whats best then so be it. Personally I really like Boston's situation where they have 2 goalies every night that can reliably win them the game

Troll post by mentioning 3 guys who were the first goalie drafted in their draft year? Also you talk about resumes like Askarov didn't have one. I would say Askarov had a bigger resume and was higher regarded than all but Vasilevskiy and even that is a close comparison.

Saying Askarov shouldn't be a starter till 25/26 is a bigger troll post than saying he could start at 22. You don't bring him over this young to keep him a backup for 5 years. If you wanted to wait till that age like Sirokin and Sheshterkin then you keep them over there longer starting in the KHL.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Troll post by mentioning 3 guys who were the first goalie drafted in their draft year? Also you talk about resumes like Askarov didn't have one. I would say Askarov had a bigger resume and was higher regarded than all but Vasilevskiy and even that is a close comparison.

Saying Askarov shouldn't be a starter till 25/26 is a bigger troll post than saying he could start at 22. You don't bring him over this young to keep him a backup for 5 years. If you wanted to wait till that age like Sirokin and Sheshterkin then you keep them over there longer starting in the KHL.

Askarov absolutely has potential but that's all it is right now. He's almost certainly not ready to be a starter next year at this point in time.

I did not say he shouldn't be a starter until age 25/26, I said thats most likely when he develops into that role. Don't twist my words to sound like im gatekeeping.

 

[oceanchild]

I find Nashvilles direction to be very confusing, between the buyouts/retention and then signing veteran players. It looks like a rebuild makes sense and he is a player you could get significant assets for and have an in-house solution available. Seems like a reasonable position.