Speculation: Power Speculation: SJS need to clear 2 mill to acquire Karlsson

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Ottawa would want what SJ got for Hoffman on top of the Karlsson deal.

They can have it, no problem.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Not when a crucial part of it indicates that SJ is a good fit/likely team to make this deal.

It didn't say it was a good fit or more likely than the other teams mentioned in the article. It didn't even mention it as equally likely as other teams mentioned.

It said it was possibly most intriguing if SJ could get three big name defensemen together. But Tampa has an already good defense corps he would join also.

At any rate, this article talks about multiple teams rather equally and doesn't really say anything new. This could have been put in the other thread about Karlsson or just quoted as a general article about Karlsson, nothing about it is singular to San Jose.

If you read the actual article, it seems to be a compilation of all of the various rumours/thoughts that have been out there before. Then the author adds a bit more of his own speculation.

I didn't see any real rumours of substance or anything particularly new or noteworthy. I'd have to agree with VK on this one.

 

[Gecklund]

Ottawa would want what SJ got for Hoffman on top of the Karlsson deal.

Perfect here's a 2nd and a 5th. We can switch out Meier/Hertl for it. Your post makes absolutely no sense.

 

[NewtJorden]

Ottawa would want what SJ got for Hoffman on top of the Karlsson deal.

Fine by me

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I still don’t see how San Jose could have offere Tavares 13 million. They just don’t have the cap room

They had like 20 million in cap space before Tavares signed

 

[Jumptheshark]

Link

Catching up on the latest round of Erik Karlsson trade talk

Quote:

The Sharks, meanwhile, would have to clear the biggest hurdle if they wanted to not only acquire but retain Karlsson. Not only would San Jose have to clear about $2 million in salary in the acquisition — which isn’t all that far-fetched given Ottawa would certainly want a roster player as part of the return — but the Sharks would have to find a way to use their cap space, projected to be less than $22 million under a flat cap, to retain Karlsson, captain Joe Pavelski and six RFAs, including Timo Meier and Kevin Labanc. As far as intrigue goes, though, San Jose might be the prime destination for Karlsson.

Then think long term and the 11m that it will take to resign him

 

[SnarkAttack]

Then think long term and the 11m that it will take to resign him

Okay, thought about it. Where do I sign?

 

[PatrikBerglund]

San Jose is not a contending team, why would they throw valuble assests on Karlsson now?

 

[Lunatik]

Trade Aaron Dell to this Flames, save 1+ million

 

[tony d]

I could see a trade happening. Karlsson could get the Sharks over the hump and make them a Cup winner. If I'm Ottawa I want a 2019 1st, Braun, Josh Norris and Timo Meier.

 

[Price is Wright]

Something around Merkley, Braun, Dell, and Meir plus picks would be fair. Ottawa gets a good D today, a good D for the future, a future #1 (maybe I'm too high on Dell) and Meir who has a ton of potential. Add a couple picks, that's at least defendable.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I could see a trade happening. Karlsson could get the Sharks over the hump and make them a Cup winner. If I'm Ottawa I want a 2019 1st, Braun, Josh Norris and Timo Meier.

The proposals you were making in the other Karlsson thread were ludicrous but this is actually fair.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Trade Aaron Dell to this Flames, save 1+ million

They’ve got plenty of expendable players that they would dump for salary reasons before Dell.

 

[Lunatik]

They’ve got plenty of expendable players that they would dump for salary reasons before Dell.

If they think Bibeau could be ready, don't be too sure. Saving 1.2-1.3 million on your backup so you don't have to weaken your everyday product is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[DarthProbert]

I don't get why teams that need Karlsson the least are the ones most rumored to be after him. SJ has Burns, Dallas has Klingberg(and Heiskanen), TB has everyone. I wanna see a team come from out of nowhere and land him with zero rumours before hand. Karsson/OEL feeding Keller and Strome? Karlsson setting up Boeser and Pettersen? Yes please.

 

[Lunatik]

I don't get why teams that need Karlsson the least are the ones most rumored to be after him.

What is so hard to understand about contenders wanting an elite player to potentially put them over the top? It is basically the easiest thing there is to figure out.

 

[Bizz]

Something around Merkley, Braun, Dell, and Meir plus picks would be fair. Ottawa gets a good D today, a good D for the future, a future #1 (maybe I'm too high on Dell) and Meir who has a ton of potential. Add a couple picks, that's at least defendable.

I wouldn't give up that package for TWO Karlssons, holy shit.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Doesn't make sense for SJ. You'd have about $20 mil locked up on two blueliners that both play RD.

Maybe in a non salary cap league it works.

 

[SnarkAttack]

Doesn't make sense for SJ. You'd have about $20 mil locked up on two blueliners that both play RD.

Maybe in a non salary cap league it works.

I don't understand this line of thinking. Why not have one of Burns or Karlsson on the ice for at least 2/3 of every game? That sounds wonderful.

They have solid, but unspectacular forwards, a pretty good goalie, and a solid defense. Getting Karlsson would give the forwards more room to work with, and he could be paired with Vlasic, which would be a really nice pairing. Ryan- Burns is a great 2nd pair, and Dillon-Heed/DeMelo would be fine, but not asked to do too much. They need another difference maker more than someone at a specific position.

 

[De Montreal]

Boedker and a 2nd round pick for a 5th round pick?

With that salary and his steady decline, Boedker has negative value. Habs have the cap space to pay him, though. It's not like he's gonna fetch you much more.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

If they think Bibeau could be ready, don't be too sure. Saving 1.2-1.3 million on your backup so you don't have to weaken your everyday product is nothing to sneeze at.

They could save slightly more money and literally improve their team if they just traded Melker Karlsson and replaced him with a replacement level player. They’re not going to just trade Dell.

 

[ThorNton Apologist]

Boedker and a 2nd round pick for a 5th round pick?

With that salary and his steady decline, Boedker has negative value. Habs have the cap space to pay him, though. It's not like he's gonna fetch you much more.

Uhh what? Ottawa isn’t trying to move Boedker and they clearly thought he had some value.

 

[NewtJorden]

I don't get why teams that need Karlsson the least are the ones most rumored to be after him. SJ has Burns, Dallas has Klingberg(and Heiskanen), TB has everyone. I wanna see a team come from out of nowhere and land him with zero rumours before hand. Karsson/OEL feeding Keller and Strome? Karlsson setting up Boeser and Pettersen? Yes please.

Probably because those starting rumors would prefer to see Karlsson on a contender team rather than staying with a bad one.

 

[matt trick]

Boedker and a 2nd round pick for a 5th round pick?

With that salary and his steady decline, Boedker has negative value. Habs have the cap space to pay him, though. It's not like he's gonna fetch you much more.

One of the best unintentionally funny posts I've read on hf!

 

[Jozay]

Doesn't make sense for SJ. You'd have about $20 mil locked up on two blueliners that both play RD.

Maybe in a non salary cap league it works.

They could have one of burns or karlsson on the ice for 50 of 60 minutes. Sounds like a great way to use cap space.