Poll: Flames Midseason Prospect Pool Rankings

[MonahanTheMan]

Discussion: Flames Midseason Prospect Pool Rankings

After a week and a total 83 votes, here are the final results from the poll.

1. Sean Monahan (average position: 1.78)
2. Johnny Gaudreau (a.p.: 2.27)
3. Sven Baertschi (a.p.: 2.48)
4. Emile Poirier (a.p.: 3.47)
5. Jon Gillies (a.p.: 4.16)
6. Markus Granlund (a.p.: 7.11)
7. Morgan Klimchuk (a.p.: 7.61)
8. Joni Ortio (a.p.: 8.87)
9. Max Reinhart (a.p.: 9.39)
10. Mark Jankowski (a.p.: 10.63)
11. Corban Knight (a.p.: 11.00)
12. Tyler Wotherspoon (a.p.: 12.24)
13. Patrick Sieloff (a.p.: 12.54)
14. Michael Ferland (a.p.: 13.40)
15. Bill Arnold (a.p.: 13.61)
16. Kenny Agostino (a.p.: 13.90)
17. Ben Hanowski (a.p.: 15.24)
18. Ryan Culkin (a.p.: 20.59)
19. Keegan Kanzig (a.p.: 21.19)
20. Brett Kulak (a.p.: 21.43)
21. Olivier Roy (a.p.: 21.53)
22. Coda Gordon (a.p.: 21.90)
23. John Ramage (a.p.: 22.61)
24. Josh Jooris (a.p.: 23.39)
25. Tim Harrison (a.p.: 24.42)
26. Eric Roy (a.p.: 25.29)
27. Turner Elson (a.p.: 25.37)
28. Chad Billins (a.p.: 25.42)
29. David Eddy (a.p.: 25.92)
30. Mark Cundari (a.p.: 26.00)
31. Rushan Rafikov (a.p.: 27.06)
32. Lane MacDermid (a.p.: 27.45)
33. Matt DeBlouw (a.p.: 27.96)
34. John Gilmour (a.p.: 28.00)
35. James Martin (a.p.: 29.76)

Thoughts? Of particular interest to me is how the board seems to be split down the middle on Gaudreau vs. Baertschi.

 

[herashak]

Good list but i think people are underrating wotherspoon. hes easily top 10 for me

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Good list actually, surprised Ortio is that high though lol. Also in the offseason I fought tooth and nail to say Ferland should be in the top 20 so it makes me happy to see him get some love and be in the top 15. Kulak should be right behind Culkin, because they are forever attached at the hip, and as a final note, I think Roy should be slightly higher. Otherwise I think it's very accurate.

 

[MonahanTheMan]

Good list actually, surprised Ortio is that high though lol. Also in the offseason I fought tooth and nail to say Ferland should be in the top 20 so it makes me happy to see him get some love and be in the top 15. Kulak should be right behind Culkin, because they are forever attached at the hip, and as a final note, I think Roy should be slightly higher. Otherwise I think it's very accurate.

Yeah I was upset that Culkin and Kulak weren't together again, but with Kanzig in there we've got a trio now

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Good list but i think people are underrating wotherspoon. hes easily top 10 for me

I wouldn't say easily, that top 10 is tough to crack. The guys ahead of him have higher or at least equal to potential. He's ranked right where he should be IMO. He could easily be a riser though.

 

[Yung Rotini]

Wasn't Jankowski like 4-5 in the summer prospect ranking? Haha it's great to see Poirier proving doubters wrong (including me)

 

[MarkGio]

Tim Harrison above Billins??

 

[WhereIsIt]

Great job with the poll! Much more efficient than how we do it in the summertime.

I think the top-6 is almost bang on with my views, I'd just swap Gillies and Porier. Also tempted to swap Jankowski and Arnold... if Arnold had been a first rounder and Jankowski a 4th, I think people's views would be much different.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Yeah I was upset that Culkin and Kulak weren't together again, but with Kanzig in there we've got a trio now

I'm gonna start calling Kanzig big nasty.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Tim Harrison above Billins??

I would be careful what you say about Harrison, his low key profile fits the bill of a serial killer perfectly. That young man scares me.

 

[MarkGio]

I would be careful what you say about Harrison, his low key profile fits the bill of a serial killer perfectly. That young man scares me.

It makes zero sense to me. Billins is our arguably our best defensive prospect if you factor NHL readiness, now that he's the 35 points in 48 games and is leading all defenseman in Abbotsford by a wide margin. Even Eric Roy is having a very good season in the CHL. Harrison has like, what, 9 points in the NCAA? He will be lucky is even becomes a career AHLer!?

I don't know if people were thinking of someone else or what?

 

[MarkGio]

Both Oliver Roy and Kanzig are in the wrong spot. Both those guys should be in the low 25-never range. Especially Roy! His career is practically done.

 

[WhereIsIt]

Both Oliver Roy and Kanzig are in the wrong spot. Both those guys should be in the low 25-never range. Especially Roy! His career is practically done.

Roy is 22 and he's a goalie, it would be foolish to count him out completely. Although he's certain not on the level of our other goalie prospects.

 

[MarkGio]

Roy is 22 and he's a goalie, it would be foolish to count him out completely. Although he's certain not on the level of our other goalie prospects.

22 in the ECHL? Brossoit was 20 and even he was fresh off Junior.

 

[WhereIsIt]

22 in the ECHL? Brossoit was 20 and even he was fresh off Junior.

It's not impossible. I don't know what his past circumstances were but if he continues to play well in the AHL he can build off that.

I'm not saying he has a good shot but it would be unfair to write him off, that's all.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

It makes zero sense to me. Billins is our arguably our best defensive prospect if you factor NHL readiness, now that he's the 35 points in 48 games and is leading all defenseman in Abbotsford by a wide margin. Even Eric Roy is having a very good season in the CHL. Harrison has like, what, 9 points in the NCAA? He will be lucky is even becomes a career AHLer!?

I don't know if people were thinking of someone else or what?

It's the truculence factor, it's this years Flames buzz word, everyone is obsessed with it. Harrison didn't even make my list

 

[MarkGio]

It's the truculence factor, it's this years Flames buzz word, everyone is obsessed with it. Harrison didn't even make my list

Kanzig I can get. He had a really good training camp and there was excellent reports of him in development camp. The season he's having isn't the greatest, but whatever, its fun thinking about a monster of a defenseman taking huge leaps in his development and hopefully becoming an NHLer

 

[Anglesmith]

I'm not sure why Granlund would be higher than Klimchuk.

 

[tmurfin]

I'm not sure why Granlund would be higher than Klimchuk.

They both have similar ceilings, but Granlund is a lot closer to the NHL.. Klimchuk could close the gap considerably next year though.

 

[HighLifeMan]

That is a surprisingly accurate reflection of our current pool.

The two slight issues I have is seeing both of Gilmour and Rafikov so low on the list. I would have both of those players significantly higher personally.

 

[MarkGio]

Good list but i think people are underrating wotherspoon. hes easily top 10 for me

He's not having the best season with Abbotsford since he only has 8 points in 42 games. Not great for an offensive defensemen, but he could be trying to focus on his defensive game.

 

[HighLifeMan]

He's not having the best season with Abbotsford since he only has 8 points in 42 games. Not great for an offensive defensemen, but he could be trying to focus on his defensive game.

I am not sure where you got that from?
Tyler Wotherspoon has never been regarded as such and is certainly not the type of player that will put up eye-popping offensive totals at the professional level.

He is without a doubt a defense first type of player that relies heavily on his high end positioning and relatively strong first pass out of the zone.

 

[WhereIsIt]

After a week and a total 83 votes, here are the final results from the poll.

1. Sean Monahan (average position: 1.78) +1
2. Johnny Gaudreau (a.p.: 2.27) no change
3. Sven Baertschi (a.p.: 2.48) (-2)
4. Emile Poirier (a.p.: 3.47) +5
5. Jon Gillies (a.p.: 4.16) no change
6. Markus Granlund (a.p.: 7.11) +6
7. Morgan Klimchuk (a.p.: 7.61) +3
8. Joni Ortio (a.p.: 8.87) +12
9. Max Reinhart (a.p.: 9.39) -1
10. Mark Jankowski (a.p.: 10.63) -6
11. Corban Knight (a.p.: 11.00) -5
12. Tyler Wotherspoon (a.p.: 12.24) -5
13. Patrick Sieloff (a.p.: 12.54) -2
14. Michael Ferland (a.p.: 13.40) +9
15. Bill Arnold (a.p.: 13.61) -1
16. Kenny Agostino (a.p.: 13.90) -3
17. Ben Hanowski (a.p.: 15.24) no change
18. Ryan Culkin (a.p.: 20.59) +8
19. Keegan Kanzig (a.p.: 21.19) +2
20. Brett Kulak (a.p.: 21.43) +7
21. Olivier Roy (a.p.: 21.53) NR
22. Coda Gordon (a.p.: 21.90) NR
23. John Ramage (a.p.: 22.61) -1
24. Josh Jooris (a.p.: 23.39) NR
25. Tim Harrison (a.p.: 24.42) +3
26. Eric Roy (a.p.: 25.29) -1
27. Turner Elson (a.p.: 25.37) NR
28. Chad Billins (a.p.: 25.42) +2
29. David Eddy (a.p.: 25.92) NR
30. Mark Cundari (a.p.: 26.00) -14
31. Rushan Rafikov (a.p.: 27.06)
32. Lane MacDermid (a.p.: 27.45)
33. Matt DeBlouw (a.p.: 27.96)
34. John Gilmour (a.p.: 28.00)
35. James Martin (a.p.: 29.76)

Thoughts? Of particular interest to me is how the board seems to be split down the middle on Gaudreau vs. Baertschi.

Summer rankings for comparison. Added ranking movement in original:

1. Sven Baertschi (95.83%)
2. Sean Monahan (68.89%)
3. Johnny Gaudreau (90.48%)
4. Mark Jankowski (57.38%)
5. Jon Gillies (50.00%)
6. Corban Knight (38.33%)
7. Tyler Wotherspoon (41.82%)
8. Max Reinhart (35.85%)
9. Emile Poirier (41.07%)
10. Morgan Klimchuk (51.85%)
11. Patrick Sieloff (50.82%)
12. Markus Granlund (46.43%)
13. Ken Agostino (38.89%)
14. Bill Arnold (40.91%)
15. Laurent Brossoit (41.38%)
16. Mark Cundari (38.98%)
17. Ben Hanowski (48.15%)
18. Chris Breen (25%)
19. Lance Bouma (27.12%)
20. Joni Ortio (21.82%)
21. Keegan Kanzig (28.57%)
22. John Ramage (38.00%)
23. Michael Ferland (23.40%)
24. Greg Nemisz (37.84%)
25. Eric Roy (34.88%)
26. Ryan Culkin (32.56)
27. Brett Kulak (59.38%)
28. Tim Harrison (37.50%)
29. Matt DeBlouw (34.38%)
30. Chad Billins

 

[Ynnek]

I would have Arnold higher myself but the top players are pretty much right.

The next time this is done I think the thread should be locked for comments so nobody can post their own lists for others to see until the voting is done.

 

[Gritty]

I love seeing Kulak at 20.... I think he's going to be one of our biggest surprises in the near future! I think he's a hidden gem in our pool!