SoupNazi
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Considering the two situations are completely different, not sure how you are surprised.It's funny, three years ago i proposed a hudler and a 2nd swap for campbell when hudler was entering the last year of his contract and campbell was chicagos #4 on the main board. most people balked at it, but some thought it was ideal. A year later hudler walks for nothing and we lose lidstrom with no replacement.
Whats funnier, someone who is now promoting campbell on the last thread said and i quote "good lord no...this is the chance to get better not siginficantly worse". I also recall people on here saying how much campbell "sucked".
Good times.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=917580
Considering the two situations are completely different, not sure how you are surprised.
I don't think Campbell is an ideal pick-up. I do think our options are much more limited three years later and we have to take what we can get.
Yes, the situations are different.
I haven't posted in a while but I was thinking...
Why not trade Howard?
He has good value. He has a cap friendly deal. I would think he could be part of a package for a young top pair Dman ect... Mrazek and Gus could fight for the job with better D in front of them and we would free up a little cash at the goal position for the short term.
I agree that it probably won't happen but...What could he fetch? How high are the Wings on Mrazek?A trade like that could potentially jeopardize the playoff streak. Never happening.
I agree that it probably won't happen but...What could he fetch? How high are the Wings on Mrazek?
Not high enough to let him be the backup goalie.
I think they want him to play. By all acounts the kid is not a back up goaltender. If Howard were no longer part of the equation and their D was significantly improved they might be more inclined to let him fight for the job. I am not a Howard hater. I think we could win with him. I just think if Mrazek is as good as he appears to be then Howard has very high trade value.Not high enough to let him be the backup goalie.
Not high enough to let him be the backup goalie.
Holland could have fore shadowed for this (and im a holland supporter). But did nothing knowing we'd lose Lidstrom soon and already did Rafalski. His plan was taking a swing at Suter/Weber and struck out.
Agreed. Based on what you hear he isn't going to wait around for Howard to retire. I don't see how we can keep both. I can't see Mrazek being happy staying in the AHL another year and then coming up to be Howard's back-up.Or high to the point that they don't want him to be the backup goalie.
Agreed. Which is why Howard should be trade bait.Another year of AHL time. Oh boy!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the Griffins can win a second Calder Cup in three years.
Why not two more years of AHL time?
When do you reach the point where twice as many AHL games no longer provide enough value towards player development over 25 NHL games?
If he is NHL ready, put him in the NHL.
If he is NHL ready, put him in the NHL.
Agreed. Which is why Howard should be trade bait.
I don't think we are winning a cup this year or in the next few years unless we make some bold moves. I would argue that we are banking on Howard's "potential" at this point since we really don't know if he has what it takes to win a cup. Mrazek has built a pretty strong resume. If we are rebuilding and getting younger then I think Howard is a logical trade option.Why shop a starting goaltender when your "replacement" has a miniscule amount of NHL experience under his belt?
Mrazek is being propped up right now on his potential alone, and not on evidence of his ability to be a consistent NHL starter.
Mrazek should get NHL time now, but not as a starter. Let him back up Howard and see how he progresses from there.
What does he have to learn in the AHL? I'd rather start him as a backup and try to steal the starting job now instead of later.