PL Matchweek 11

[S E P H]

Arsenal were the better team, but shouldn't Liverpool be up by one? Not sure why the Mane goal was determined to be offsides?

 

[KJS14]

Why is that okay? Leno got 0 ball and only Virgil.

Alisson did the same thing to Mkhi lol

 

[Evilo]

But it's not an Arsenal issue. It happened to Ozil with Germany as well, because announcers are too lazy to actually analyze the game they're calling and they resort to the same predetermined story lines like Ozil being lazy.

He IS lazy when he doesn't have the ball. Proof was on that play. Disgusting. Doesn't make him any less of player with the ball. His game the other day was unreal.
But he makes zero effort when the oppoing player strips the ball from him. ZERO.

 

[S E P H]

What an unreal half to watch. Stressful at times, but so much fun

There's so much talent out there and Arsenal's passing game has been superb.

Anyone getting extremely tired of Lee Dixon? This bloke is just negative and annoying every second he speaks.

 

[Evilo]

Arsenal were the better team, but shouldn't Liverpool be up by one? Not sure why the Mane goal was determined to be offsides?

Because the ref thinks Mane interfered with the play on the first pass. He doesn't IMO, but as Eric Di Meco says it, the interpretation is right since the defense played Mane offside and yet the went for the ball.
So I think he's onside by the book, offside by the spirit.

 

[KJS14]

He IS lazy when he doesn't have the ball. Proof was on that play. Disgusting. Doesn't make him any less of player with the ball. His game the other day was unreal.
But he makes zero effort when the oppoing player strips the ball from him. ZERO.

He's definitely not a hard-working guy against the ball, but that's not his role to play. And he's not lazy like that every game, despite what everyone would have you believe. I've seen multiple games where he's won the most possession out of any player on the pitch.

 

[S E P H]

Because the ref thinks Mane interfered with the play on the first pass. He doesn't IMO, but as Eric Di Meco says it, the interpretation is right since the defense played Mane offside and yet the went for the ball.
So I think he's onside by the book, offside by the spirit.

That makes sense if the linesman saw it with the first play as you suggested, I mean it was the wrong call, but I will take it.

 

[Evilo]

He's definitely not a hard-working guy against the ball, but that's not his role to play. And he's not lazy like that every game, despite what everyone would have you believe. I've seen multiple games where he's won the most possession out of any player on the pitch.

Oh not every game. As I said, he sometimes DOES play with intensity. But how can he NOT play like this in this game? All his teammates are playing super hard. His brain isn't always in sync it seems.

And I don't like the "it's not his role". Messi when stripped off the ball tries to get it back immediately.
It frustrates me when I see ADM do it. Or Traore for Lyon. Or Neymar. Or Benzema with France (not with Real).

 

[robertmac43]

It happened to Ozil with Germany as well, because announcers are too lazy to actually analyze the game they're calling and they resort to the same predetermined story lines like Ozil being lazy.

True. I think a lot of that narrative is not helped by the lack of success Arsenal has had especially in big games where Ozil is expected to carry the team to victory.

 

[Chimaera]

Arsenal have been much better, though Liverpool probably should have one or two

 

[KJS14]

Oh not every game. As I said, he sometimes DOES play with intensity. But how can he NOT play like this in this game? All his teammates are playing super hard. His brain isn't always in sync it seems.

And I don't like the "it's not his role". Messi when stripped off the ball tries to get it back immediately.
It frustrates me when I see ADM do it. Or Traore for Lyon. Or Neymar. Or Benzema with France (not with Real).

I don't think your criticism of him is unfair, but a lot of players do the same thing and get away without being criticized for it (and i don't mean by you necessarily). You'll never hear the commentators or media talk about how "Kroos looked like a traffic cone out there today, letting every midfielder run right around him" even though just about everyone on this board knows that happens in 50% of the games he plays.

 

[KJS14]

Ref leave his cards at home today??

 

[robertmac43]

lol @ the commentator just saying these Liverpool jerseys are"deep plum" coloured

 

[robertmac43]

What a ball there, if only Mkhi could have gotten that across

 

[KJS14]

Fabinho finally getting a card after like 10 fouls today.

 

[Live in the Now]

VVD just too diesel there. That felt like it should have been a goal but I was never worried about it due to who was back there.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Van Dijk has been absolutely immense

 

[robertmac43]

what a terrible way to concede...

 

[Scandale du Jour]

That sucks. Arsenal were dominating

 

[bluesfan94]

Arsenal is dominating and is now down 0-1. Brilliant

 

[Live in the Now]

Thanks Leno.

 

[KJS14]

Just as I started to like Leno...

 

[Chimaera]

Those are some scary chompers.

Leno probably makes that mistake there.

 

[robertmac43]

Leno has to be better there

 

[koyvoo]

With all the offensive threats and chances in this game it was always going to be Milner from open play wasn’t it?