Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salud Thread - Where We Talk About Size & ED

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TimmyD

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Sleepy would love to bring in another former Kings AND Flyers player.

The last guy he brought in that was a former Flyer and King worked out pretty damn well...but I know, he hasn't made 19 trades and gotten rid of all of our bad players for all of the other teams good players because he just likes to be sleepy and collect a paycheck
 

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Merrill, Gudas and Spurgeon would be my targets in defense next season

I've posted about it before, but a big trade with the Wild involving Greenway, Fiala, Spurgeon and Foligno for guys like Guentzal, Letang with extension, Kapanen etc.
I'd also like a trade involving Rust and R.Smith from Vegas.

Yeah, I’d do Rust for Smith. As evidence here..

Proposal: - VGK - PIT

That Minnesota deal is bizarre. We downgrade in every position lol.
 

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Yeah, I’d do Rust for Smith. As evidence here..

Proposal: - VGK - PIT

That Minnesota deal is bizarre. We downgrade in every position lol.

My proposal from a couple weeks ago

Rust for R.Smith
Guentzal+Letang(extension)+McCann+1st for Greenway+Spurgeon+Foligno+Fiala
Marino for Gudas+3rd
Pettersson for a 5th
Sign Andersson+Hamilton+Perry

Zucker-Crosby-R.Smith
Greenway-Malkin-Kapanen
Fiala-Carter-Foligno
Tanev-Blueger-Perry

Dumoulin-Hamilton
Matheson-Spurgeon
POJ-Gudas
 

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Yeah, I’d do Rust for Smith. As evidence here..

Proposal: - VGK - PIT

That Minnesota deal is bizarre. We downgrade in every position lol.

I wouldn't. Smith and Rust are basically even. One makes 1.5 Mil more.

Smith also didn't have the best of years....neither did Rust though. I'd rather sell high on Rust for a 1st or a prospect.
 

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My proposal from a couple weeks ago

Rust for R.Smith
Guentzal+Letang(extension)+McCann+1st for Greenway+Spurgeon+Foligno+Fiala
Marino for Gudas+3rd
Pettersson for a 5th
Sign Andersson+Hamilton+Perry

Zucker-Crosby-R.Smith
Greenway-Malkin-Kapanen
Fiala-Carter-Foligno
Tanev-Blueger-Perry

Dumoulin-Hamilton
Matheson-Spurgeon
POJ-Gudas

Wow that's awful.
 

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My proposal from a couple weeks ago

Rust for R.Smith
Guentzal+Letang(extension)+McCann+1st for Greenway+Spurgeon+Foligno+Fiala
Marino for Gudas+3rd
Pettersson for a 5th
Sign Andersson+Hamilton+Perry

Zucker-Crosby-R.Smith
Greenway-Malkin-Kapanen
Fiala-Carter-Foligno
Tanev-Blueger-Perry

Dumoulin-Hamilton
Matheson-Spurgeon
POJ-Gudas

Not sure the cap is going to work there. Outside of the outlandish level of moves.
 

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Beddy Tlueger
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Smith is a better defensive player and playmaker IMO.

Eh. Smith is a pure goal scorer. Like i said he and Rust are basically the same player. Both have a case of tunnel vision.

Rust is a good defensive player when he's not with Sid and plays his natural bottom 6 game.

Rust is cheaper. So i would rather just keep him. But ultimately i think the smart move is to sell on Rust this offseason for a 1st or a prospect.


But I don't want to see Rust/Crosby again for another year. So maybe i would do the trade just so it's not possible to ever put Rust with Crosby ever again.
 
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Gurglesons

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Eh. Smith is a pure goal scorer. Like i said he and Rust are basically the same player. Both have a case of tunnel vision.

Rust is a good defensive player when he's not with Sid and plays his natural bottom 6 game.

Rust is cheaper. So i would rather just keep him. But ultimately i think the smart move is to sell on Rust this offseason for a 1st or a prospect.


But I don't want to see Rust/Crosby again for another year. So maybe i would do the trade just so it's not possible to ever put Rust with Crosby ever again.

I don’t see Smith as a pure goal scorer at all. You must be thinking of Marsh.

Smith has only scored more than 25 goals once.
 

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Beddy Tlueger
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I don’t see Smith as a pure goal scorer at all. You must be thinking of Marsh.

Smith has only scored more than 25 goals once.
Marsh is great with Playmaking. so no.


Rust aswell has only scored 25+ once...But Rust is still what i consider a shoot first guy who is not a good playmaker and is a pure goal scorer.

Tons of guys in the NHL are pure goal scorers who only give you 15-20 goals. (Vatrano, Craig Smith, Sprong, Grabner and the legend Brandon Pirri)

I would Say McCann aswell.
 

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Marsh is great with Playmaking. so no.


Rust aswell has only scored 25+ once...But Rust is still what i consider a shoot first guy who is not a good playmaker and is a pure goal scorer.

Tons of guys in the NHL are pure goal scorers who only give you 15-20 goals. (Vatrano, Craig Smith, Sprong, Grabner and the legend Brandon Pirri)

I would Say McCann aswell.

You must not watch Vegas. Marsh is the goalscorer on that line. Smith is the playmaker.
 

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Beddy Tlueger
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You must not watch Vegas. Marsh is the goalscorer on that line. Smith is the playmaker.

Smith is a guy who loves to take the puck himself and drive to the net. He and Rust are not what ones would call playmakers.

Marsh had almost tripple the assists Smith had this season.
 

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Honour Over Glory

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I don't think Eichel's injury is serious. It's only serious if he doesn't get the surgery is why he's pissed. The Sabres want to kick the can down the road with his injury and Jack ain't having it and that's smart.

Because look at what that mentality has done to our stars. Malkin is held together with super glue and Crosby supposedly had a concussion but it was whiplash the whole time.

Team doctors = dumb :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:. They work for the team not the player. It's like HR :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:. They aren't there to help you, they're there to help the company's interests against you and how they can protect the company from your shit.

I'd go in on Eichel if a lot of other teams are scared.
 

Honour Over Glory

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Well...... that's just sad.
I mean if we want Saad then what they need to do is move Zucker and Pettersson and create that space to add him in addition to keeping Guentzel and have enough cap left over for a better 4c and a RD that can help POJ.

I'd be proactive about it. I'd move Zucker for Saad and a conditional pick. If Saad doesn't sign it turns into a 1st or some shit if he does then the Pens send them a 6th.

I think we could get Saad to sign at 5x5.
 
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No thanks for Saad. I'll take 1 JT.Miller and if we can somehow land Greenway and Foligno that would be rad, but likely not realistic.
 

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My proposal from a couple weeks ago

Rust for R.Smith
Guentzal+Letang(extension)+McCann+1st for Greenway+Spurgeon+Foligno+Fiala
Marino for Gudas+3rd
Pettersson for a 5th
Sign Andersson+Hamilton+Perry

Zucker-Crosby-R.Smith
Greenway-Malkin-Kapanen
Fiala-Carter-Foligno
Tanev-Blueger-Perry

Dumoulin-Hamilton
Matheson-Spurgeon
POJ-Gudas
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