Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread - JR is the worst

[The Old Master]

Hell if VGK want a cheap winger option, Simon or ZAR could do the trick.

or both.

 

[Riptide]

Career stats
Player A (per 82) - 17 goals, 37 points, 33 ES points
Player B (per 82) - 10 goals, 21 points, 19 ES points

Even if just using last year
Player A (per 82) - 21 goals, 40 points, 35 ES points
Player B (per 82) - 14 goals, 30 points, 27 ES points

This downplaying of Rust is insane to me. He's not only a better player, but he's a great fit for this team and can play on any line.

No more insane then using a players stats while overlooking the fact that one spent 66% of their icetime with Crosby or Malkin while the other spent 89% of their icetime with Lowry as their center.

 

[mpp9]

How many posters here actually watch Winnipeg regularly. I bet it's like 10% of us, max.

Ya don't know. Contract sucks but the player might not. Let it play out.

 

[deakka]

Blandisi is back. Nice depth i guess

 

[T1K]

How many posters here actually watch Winnipeg regularly. I bet it's like 10% of us, max.

Ya don't know. Contract sucks but the player might not. Let it play out.

Yeah, but if he sucks we are stuck with him for the next 6 years. This screams potential buy out to me. I hope he works out, but I don’t like the idea of making such a large commitment to an insignificant player.

 

[mpp9]

Yeah, but if he sucks we are stuck with him for the next 6 years. This screams potential buy out to me. I hope he works out, but I don’t like the idea of making such a large commitment to an insignificant player.

Sounds like a lot of contending teams were in on him. I bet he was asking around 3 mil on a multi year deal. And we ponied up in years to make sure we got him.

This team is done in 3 years more than likely. Is he a player worth 3.5 over the next three years? Maybe. We shall see.

 

[Turin]

How many posters here actually watch Winnipeg regularly. I bet it's like 10% of us, max.

Ya don't know. Contract sucks but the player might not. Let it play out.

I’ve seen probably +60% of Tanevs games. He went from wow, this guy does nothing, to: hey, he’s actually an nhler to: this man is the heart and soul of this team

 

[JTG]

I think how JR thinks about this is that in 6 years, we will be rebuilding and a 3.5m cap hit will be like a 2.5m cap hit. Inconsequential and if it brings a guy on right now that can help this team that otherwise wouldn't have come to Pittsburgh, why not? Had the deal been better, bringing Tanev in would have been unanimously praised.

 

[Nakawick]

Hopefully Tanev keeps his hunger and tenacity and doesn’t get complacent now that he got his payday.

 

[66-30-33]

I rarely watch any Jets games so I will keep my mouth shut about Tanev. Just that I don't like the AAV or term, but he does bring good things to this team and who knows, maybe JJ is now out the door with a sweetener.

 

[JTG]

How many posters here actually watch Winnipeg regularly. I bet it's like 10% of us, max.

Ya don't know. Contract sucks but the player might not. Let it play out.

I catch Winnipeg games when I can just because I dig the team in general and I find the hockey market fascinating. Tanev was always a guy I thought would look good in a Pens sweater. Looking at his stats, it's insane to propose, but he can play anywhere in the lineup when a line needs a spark. He consistently makes defensemen cough up the puck. In an ideal world, he and Rust make up one of the better 3rd lines in the league. I just don't think Bjugstad is that center.

 

[JTG]

Hopefully Tanev keeps his hunger and tenacity and doesn’t get complacent now that he got his payday.

He doesn't strike me as a guy that would happen to. He has a young Chris Kunitz mentality. I think it's the undrafted college thing - these guys realize how hard it is to get there and will put their faces in front of pucks to stay there.

 

[mpp9]

I’ve seen probably +60% of Tanevs games. He went from wow, this guy does nothing, to: hey, he’s actually an nhler to: this man is the heart and soul of this team

I will say that the rapid uptick in his play having only been in the league a couple years is intriguing.

An article I read recently with quotes from him suggest he thinks it was just a matter of confidence to get to where he was this year. If last season is his norm and he can fit in for stretches in the top 6 to spark us when we're floundering, this could work.

 

[mpp9]

I catch Winnipeg games when I can just because I dig the team in general and I find the hockey market fascinating. Tanev was always a guy I thought would look good in a Pens sweater. Looking at his stats, it's insane to propose, but he can play anywhere in the lineup when a line needs a spark. He consistently makes defensemen cough up the puck. In an ideal world, he and Rust make up one of the better 3rd lines in the league. I just don't think Bjugstad is that center.

Yeah I really hope Blueger gets a long look at 3C this year. If we trade a winger to move salary, Bjugstad can move to RW.

 

[Gurglesons]

95% of people here get that it's a wild and reckless contract to say the least. That's been articulated countless times.

Where it founders is when attached to statements about 4th line players when dealing with a guy who played at and scored at 3rd line numbers last year. No need to act like a martyr over people arguing that one.

That was a joke.

Also, I’m surprised to see you refer to Tanev as a 3rd liner. What over his career leads you to believe that?

 

[Nakawick]

He doesn't strike me as a guy that would happen to. He has a young Chris Kunitz mentality. I think it's the undrafted college thing - these guys realize how hard it is to get there and will put their faces in front of pucks to stay there.

There would be more than a few posters eating crow if we just signed a Kunitz type for 6 years at 3.5 (who I am sure would gladly eat the crow in that case).

 

[Gurglesons]

People seemed to be pretty content with Hagelin doing that.



And yet never once did that here in any of his full seasons. Hagelin over his time as a Penguin as a 0.43PGP (35 pt avg). However if you remove the HBK time (17/18+) that goes down to a 0.35PGP.

Tanev over the past 2 seasons (his time as a full time NHLer) averaged 0.33PGP, while having hit 0.36PGP last season.

I was never content with Hags and thought his contract would be a huge issue. It wasn’t for one year. If Tanev has that effect, I will guarantee I will eat my words.

I’ve done it plenty. I also feel like my criticism of Hunwick, JJ and the Bonino situation should speak to itself.

 

[Corvidae]

Hopefully Tanev keeps his hunger and tenacity and doesn’t get complacent now that he got his payday.

Yeah guys have a history of coming to Pittsburgh for the 3rd or 4th line and think they can start dangling. Not as much a problem in recent years but they'd see Mario/Jagr/Sid and forget their role. Georges Laraque was the most egregious offender.

I doubt that will happen, but there are some scars...

 

[Gurglesons]

There would be more than a few posters eating crow if we just signed a Kunitz type for 6 years at 3.5 (who I am sure would gladly eat the crow in that case).

Is this in reference to the people that flipped out about Kuni’s extension at 3.75 or at myself?

 

[Ryder71]

How many posters here actually watch Winnipeg regularly. I bet it's like 10% of us, max.

Ya don't know. Contract sucks but the player might not. Let it play out.

TBH I think the sentiment around these parts is that he will help the team. I think only Pixies is against the player, but quite a lot of us, like you hate that contract.

 

[Gurglesons]

Yeah I really hope Blueger gets a long look at 3C this year. If we trade a winger to move salary, Bjugstad can move to RW.

The Tanev contract is 100% less of an issue if Teddy at C turns out to be a steal.

 

[888 98 twins]

So what do we end up getting for Jarry? Is he a sweetener? A 2nd round pick?

 

[JTG]

Yeah I really hope Blueger gets a long look at 3C this year. If we trade a winger to move salary, Bjugstad can move to RW.

Blueger's skill set actually meshes well with those guys. He's a distributor. A 3rd line of Tanev-Blueger-Rust is a lot of hopes and dreams, but f*** would it be a pesky line to play against. So many unknowns there though - does Tanev have another offensive gear? Can Blueger produce like a 3rd line center? Is Blueger strong enough to withstand 3rd line matchups? Will Rust stay healthy?

I am just not a fan of Bjugstad. There was exactly one game as a Penguin where I really thought he was awesome and that was game 1 of the playoffs when they put him at 3C and he had like 12 hits and some good scoring chances.

 

[Nakawick]

Is this in reference to the people that flipped out about Kuni’s extension at 3.75 or at myself?

No one in particular, but it is up for grabs if you want it.

 

[JTG]

So what do we end up getting for Jarry? Is he a sweetener? A 2nd round pick?

I can't see us getting anywhere near a 2nd round pick for Jarry. If we could, I'd flip him right now.