Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread - JR is the worst

[ColePens]

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[dogthateats]

I still feel like JR is a top 10 gm around the league.

 

[ColePens]

He's definitely a renegade outlaw that defines Murphy's law "anything that can happen, will happen."

 

[Turin]

I still feel like JR is a top 10 gm around the league.

He could be bottom 5 or top 5 depending on the year. But I like how he isn’t stagnant.

 

[Turin]

I really, really want to ship out Johnson and get Gardiner.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Happy with the Maatta-Kahun swap. Optimistic about Galchenyuk. Like Tanev the player, but revile his contract.

We still have JJ, and I suspect it's either because JR won't pony up to remove him, or because he won't accept anything short of a Scuderi-Daley type of coup.

 

[Empoleon8771]

JR's a guy who could make a mad discovery to help bring water to deprived areas of the world, only to poison all of those water supplies a year later when trying to do something different.

 

[T1K]

We signed Brandon Tanev to a 6 year deal. I still can’t believe it.

 

[Son Goku]

Regardless of salary, once we remove jack Johnson from the fold I REALLY like the look of our roster. We're as deep as any team at forward. Lots of potential to grow as well and HUNGRY players who are itching to perform. We added a few very nice prospects through the draft as well.

 

[Malkinstheman]

We signed Brandon Tanev to a 6 year deal. I still can’t believe it.

Like others have said, near the end of the contract this team will be in the gutter so its not a big deal. My issue is that since we went so long, thee AAV should have come down.

 

[dogthateats]

Still wondering what we do with our goalies. Trade DeSmith or Jarry. Try to sneak Jarry through waivers?

 

[Coach Travis]

This team has gotten away from what made them successful: Trusting their prospects. In 2016 and 2017, we brought up a bunch of unproven guys like Sheary, Rust, Dumoulin, Kuhnhackl, Guentzel, Rowney, Wilson and of course, Matt Murray and this was in the day when the Penguins had "already emptied the cupboard" because they "mortgaged the future".

Since then though, we threw away Sundqvist because he wasn't going to be anything... Scored at a 15 goal pace this season. We gave up on Archibald since he wasn't going to pan out... Scored at a 14 goal pace this season.

Rather than signing Tanev and his 14 goals at $3.5M, we could've kept either of these guys who make ~$700K.

Let Teddy rot in WBS forever and when he finally got his shot, he looks great but still didn't trust him over Matt Cullen.

Nobody knows what they've got – truly got – until you give your trust in these guys and give them actual NHL reps.

Makes me wonder what Ethan Prow or Freddy Tiffles might have been.

 

[Turin]

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kahun-Malkin-Galchenyuk
McCann-Staal-Rust
Simon-Bleuger-Tanev

Gardiner-Letang
Dumoulin-Schultz
Pettersson-Gudbranson

How do we do it? Would we lose a game? I doubt. I’ll give all the picks, I don’t care.

 

[IcedCapp]

I really, really want to ship out Johnson and get Gardiner.

you know what...

I agree. Always felt like Jake gets way too much shit for team failure. Btw if you're an "old school" hockey guy who believes in sticktoitiveness and grit and sandpaper and will and determination and stupid shit that doesn't exist, please don't @ me with how Jake is a choker

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kahun-Malkin-Galchenyuk
McCann-Staal-Rust
Simon-Bleuger-Tanev

Gardiner-Letang
Dumoulin-Schultz
Pettersson-Gudbranson

How do we do it? Would we lose a game? I doubt. I’ll give all the picks, I don’t care.

You got a problem on that top line, but yeah. That's a good'un.

 

[Jacob]

Still wondering what we do with our goalies. Trade DeSmith or Jarry. Try to sneak Jarry through waivers?

If we have the cap room I’d keep all 3 at least for a bit: might come in handy if there’s an injury. You don’t get more than a pick for Jarry anyway.

 

[ColePens]

Tanev was the one guy I was happy we were associated with, but man that term/money is something you just shake your head at. There is just no way for him to live up to it.

If JJ is moved, the one nice thing is that he would be our worst contract. That's not toooooooooooo bad. It's just completely and utterly unnecessary. And this dude will cause an issue in regards to signing someone at some time. It's a guarantee.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This team has gotten away from what made them successful: Trusting their prospects.

This is total bogus. Last year, the Penguins have had ZAR, Simon, Blueger, Pettersson (he was basically a prospect when the Penguins acquired him) and Riikola as young prospects playing in significant roles in the NHL. "Trusting the youth" isn't a problem on this team, this team plays more youth in everyday roles than a lot of other contenders.

 

[Ryder71]

We signed Brandon Tanev to a 6 year deal. I still can’t believe it.

I'm having trouble with this myself because I really like the player. It'll take a few days to digest this. I think he'll help for sure but now we're screwed as it pertains to the cap.

 

[IcedCapp]

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kahun-Malkin-Galchenyuk
McCann-Staal-Rust
Simon-Bleuger-Tanev

Gardiner-Letang
Dumoulin-Schultz
Pettersson-Gudbranson

How do we do it? Would we lose a game? I doubt. I’ll give all the picks, I don’t care.

okay, I want Jake, but I do think Jake - Letang is asking for some sort of end to the universe, so maybe get Jake, but not pair him with Letang.

 

[Turin]

This team has gotten away from what made them successful: Trusting their prospects. In 2016 and 2017, we brought up a bunch of unproven guys like Sheary, Rust, Dumoulin, Kuhnhackl, Guentzel, Rowney, Wilson and of course, Matt Murray and this was in the day when the Penguins had "already emptied the cupboard" because they "mortgaged the future".

Since then though, we threw away Sundqvist because he wasn't going to be anything... Scored at a 15 goal pace this season. We gave up on Archibald since he wasn't going to pan out... Scored at a 14 goal pace this season.

Rather than signing Tanev and his 14 goals at $3.5M, we could've kept either of these guys who make ~$700K.

Let Teddy rot in WBS forever and when he finally got his shot, he looks great but still didn't trust him over Matt Cullen.

Nobody knows what they've got – truly got – until you give your trust in these guys and give them actual NHL reps.

Makes me wonder what Ethan Prow or Freddy Tiffles might have been.

Aside from Bleuger, who didn’t “rot” in WBS, all those 2016 guys were better than what we’ve had recently. It’s hard to have consistently good ELC players come up when you’re consistently drafting late.

 

[T1K]

Like others have said, near the end of the contract this team will be in the gutter so its not a big deal. My issue is that since we went so long, thee AAV should have come down.

I like to think Tanev just absolutely outplayed JR. Like maybe he got some other offers, but he got JR to bid against himself. We just saw it last year with Jack Johnson. JR has been known to give out horrible contracts. I think this contract makes it extremely difficult to retain Murray/Schultz/Galchenyuk next season, barring trading a forward such as Rust.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Tanev as a player, but this contract creates immediate and long term cap complications. There is no liquidity with this contract so he better be a damn good fit.

 

[Turin]

okay, I want Jake, but I do think Jake - Letang is asking for some sort of end to the universe, so maybe get Jake, but not pair him with Letang.

I have a higher opinion of Letang’s hockey sense than most, so I’m more scared to pair Gardiner with Schultz, but I see your point.

 

[dogthateats]

Hornqvist might be our worst contract. Sorry

 

[Jobeycool]

Is there yet to be desired by little Jimmy Rusty Rutherford heart to further damage this team or will He by some miracle improve the team?