Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread:(G-DAY) Ned; Watch Out For That First Step, It's A Doozy.

[66-30-33]

Three or four years from now? Is Sid and Geno gonna find the fountain of youth or something? We're running on fumes now and you think the window is open for three or four more years?

 

[Ryder71]

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Why do we have to give up something huge? he doesn't suck. He's not as good as his rookie season good but he's ok.

5 x 4.4 is a big investment for a guy that isn't really a middle pair lock. I doubt he'd be easy to move without a penalty.

 

[Gurglesons]

5 x 4.4 is a big investment for a guy that isn't really a middle pair lock. I doubt he'd be easy to move without a penalty.

don’t forget there is trade protection.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

don’t forget there is trade protection.

Marino doesn't have a NMC or M-NMC.

 

[Daeni10]

Marino doesn't have a NMC or M-NMC.

He has in the last 3 years, but still some time until then.
That being said I don't think you should move on from him, however if we decide to do it, I am pretty pretty sure that we can easily do so

 

[AuroraBorealis]

He has in the last 3 years, but still some time until then.
That being said I don't think you should move on from him, however if we decide to do it, I am pretty pretty sure that we can easily do so

Ah I wasn't aware you can activate that on a specific year. Ok.

Well, it depends on your definition of "easily".

 

[Gurglesons]

Marino doesn't have a NMC or M-NMC.

He has a modified NTC like everyone else Rutherford signed.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

He has a modified NTC like everyone else Rutherford signed.

Doesn't kick in until 2024-25 though. The talk here is of trading him soon.

 

[Gurglesons]

Doesn't kick in until 2024-25 though. The talk here is of trading him soon.

It’ll play into his value as well as Pettersson’s.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Lol f*** Petry. The last thing we need is someone that brings baggage with him.

 

[Daeni10]

Oooooopppps, yea. Hextall’s lack of activity is getting to my brain.

@HandshakeLine May I, senpai?

 

[The Old Master]

I don't really care about the end of contracts, tbh, because the end of Petry's contract is likely at the end of Sid and Geno and Letang's careers anyway. I have a really hard time believing we'll even be making the playoffs in 2025.

come on man! you know every September we are cup contenders. who do you think your talking to?

 

[The Old Master]

Yeah, but there's probably a few pure and innocent naifs out there who think this team is going to keep on being in the playoffs FOR EVER and that Sid is never going to retire. I want to spare their feelings.

edit; good thing i don't have a clue what naifs means but i'm sure its a compliment.

 

[ronduguayshair]

I think Marcus Petterson is hungry. And because he's Swedish, I think he's hungry for fish.

This this how content works here?

 

[K Fleur]

I think Marcus Petterson is hungry. And because he's Swedish, I think he's hungry for fish.

This this how content works here?

Only somebody with season tickets would know the answer.

 

[ronduguayshair]

Only somebody with season tickets would know the answer.

I wouldn't guess what a player is thinking. That's the point. I am a season ticket holder though. Seeing the whole ice it is sometimes glaring who's not buying into the system and take shifts off.

 

[chethejet]

Pens have to sign Letang as a top pairing RD who has some good play left. How long not sure but he isn't showing any real signs of physical limitation currently. I think 3 years at say 8 million is my number. Longer than that or more money is problematic as to Pens having enough talent to have any shot here.

 

[Andy99]

Speaking about re-signing our FAs, I wonder what people make of Burke’s comments to Seth Rorabaugh…after saying the team basically had no cap space to be players at the TDL, he said the following:….


“(Hextall) has been in talks with both of those players (Geno and Letang) We’ll see where it goes. It’s too early. We still have plenty of time before we have to make a decision. We’ve had discussions with them, and we’ll keep those confidential. But certainly, we’ve had substantive talks with both players. We’ll see where it goes. We have time.”
• What does the future hold for the Penguins? What will they look like on the second anniversary of Burke and Hextall’s arrival?
“We’ll have a lot more answers after the trade deadline. That’s when we’ll know if players are going to extend or not or they’re going to go somewhere else. But we’ve got lots of time. I’ll answer that question at the right time.”

Overall, he could be saying: 1) we’re going to trade UFA players who don’t commit to resigning before the deadline; 2) it could just be posturing to get a deal done that the Pens favor if there’s an impasse; or 3) he could just be blowing smoke regarding either/or not making moves at the TDL or doing something at the TDL regarding our players. Thoughts?

 

[eXile3]

Pens have to sign Letang as a top pairing RD who has some good play left. How long not sure but he isn't showing any real signs of physical limitation currently. I think 3 years at say 8 million is my number. Longer than that or more money is problematic as to Pens having enough talent to have any shot here.

Well it looks like he's going to want 4-5 years. He's not going to continue to produce at a near PPG pace. He'll probably fall back to somewhere between .70-.80. That's still hard to replace.

I don't understand everyone's pessimism for this team. With all the injuries and playing in a competitive division we're 8th in point % in the league. This team is absolutely a contender. Now when the playoffs roll around and they stop calling penalties it will be a crapshoot again but there are a lot of teams that wish they were in this position. As soon as our players turned 30 everyone started putting nails in the coffin.

 

[Andy99]

Well it looks like he's going to want 4-5 years. He's not going to continue to produce at a near PPG pace. He'll probably fall back to somewhere between .70-.80. That's still hard to replace.

I don't understand everyone's pessimism for this team. With all the injuries and playing in a competitive division we're 8th in point % in the league. This team is absolutely a contender. Now when the playoffs roll around and they stop calling penalties it will be a crapshoot again but there are a lot of teams that wish they were in this position. As soon as our players turned 30 everyone started putting nails in the coffin.

it’s not just the age…Do you trust Jarry or any of our other goalies to play above a .920 save % in the POs or outplay the opposing goalie, which is a must? Do you trust Sullivan to make the necessary adjustments in the POs, which likely will include breaking up GCR, as we have two years of history that says that line is not a PO line that will get thru the interference and win board battles? Your answers to those questions will say everything about what you think our chances are this postseason

 

[Beauner]

Speaking about re-signing our FAs, I wonder what people make of Burke’s comments to Seth Rorabaugh…after saying the team basically had no cap space to be players at the TDL, he said the following:….


“(Hextall) has been in talks with both of those players (Geno and Letang) We’ll see where it goes. It’s too early. We still have plenty of time before we have to make a decision. We’ve had discussions with them, and we’ll keep those confidential. But certainly, we’ve had substantive talks with both players. We’ll see where it goes. We have time.”
• What does the future hold for the Penguins? What will they look like on the second anniversary of Burke and Hextall’s arrival?
“We’ll have a lot more answers after the trade deadline. That’s when we’ll know if players are going to extend or not or they’re going to go somewhere else. But we’ve got lots of time. I’ll answer that question at the right time.”

Overall, he could be saying: 1) we’re going to trade UFA players who don’t commit to resigning before the deadline; 2) it could just be posturing to get a deal done that the Pens favor if there’s an impasse; or 3) he could just be blowing smoke regarding either/or not making moves at the TDL or doing something at the TDL regarding our players. Thoughts?

I think he’s just saying words without them meaning anything. Hextall has always been pretty tight lipped if I recall, and Burke is probably just playing along. I wouldn’t be surprised if they already have a framework in place for new contracts with Malkin and Letang

 

[Rakell67]

Do the Pens only play Carolina 3 times?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Do the Pens only play Carolina 3 times?

Yeah I was surprised by that too. One of the adjustments that was made because of introducing Seattle.

Probably means more points for us. I'm cool with it!

 

[Pens x]

Speaking about re-signing our FAs, I wonder what people make of Burke’s comments to Seth Rorabaugh…after saying the team basically had no cap space to be players at the TDL, he said the following:….


“(Hextall) has been in talks with both of those players (Geno and Letang) We’ll see where it goes. It’s too early. We still have plenty of time before we have to make a decision. We’ve had discussions with them, and we’ll keep those confidential. But certainly, we’ve had substantive talks with both players. We’ll see where it goes. We have time.”
• What does the future hold for the Penguins? What will they look like on the second anniversary of Burke and Hextall’s arrival?
“We’ll have a lot more answers after the trade deadline. That’s when we’ll know if players are going to extend or not or they’re going to go somewhere else. But we’ve got lots of time. I’ll answer that question at the right time.”

Overall, he could be saying: 1) we’re going to trade UFA players who don’t commit to resigning before the deadline; 2) it could just be posturing to get a deal done that the Pens favor if there’s an impasse; or 3) he could just be blowing smoke regarding either/or not making moves at the TDL or doing something at the TDL regarding our players. Thoughts?

“Pittsburgh's the last team to win with a small, fast team. The last 3 Cup winners have been big, they play long pants hockey, they play ugly hockey. I think we need to look at that & see, have we kept up with the joneses here?"
-Burke

I wouldn’t bother paying attention to anything he says. How’d they do at making the team more physical this summer?