Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salad Cap Thread: I'll take my salad with extra salt

[Gurglesons]

Is the power play actually a problem?

Is Daniel Sprong actually an NHLer? Who knows. But you are about to get a prerecorded 4 paragraph response with lots of numbers thrown at you.

 

[EightyOne]

Is Daniel Sprong actually an NHLer? Who knows. But you are about to get a prerecorded 4 paragraph response with lots of numbers thrown at you.

I know

That record has been broken since Lord Kessel's fat ass was jettisoned

Despite the team STILL having one of the best Powerplays in the league

As if they really just want Letang taken away so we can all feel the pain they had when Phil left

Or some stupid ass shit like that

"reeee no one can one time on the left wall ree"

Ok so... Let's gameplan around that...."deficiency"... Which... It isn't even because again... PP isn't a problem. As if 5 PPGs are going to matter. Which is like the difference of the pens and top ten.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Lol I like how @Gurglesons and @Empoleon8771 were THIIIIIS close to agreeing with each other

But... Just couldn't let it happen

The extent of which we disagree here is pretty minor. I think we both agree that we need a 4C, but the disagreement would be about how good of a 4C we need. I'm also not totally sold on ERod as an everyday player. His overall stat line looks decent, but when you realize he did that with top-6 usage, Its much less decent

 

[Gurglesons]

The extent of which we disagree here is pretty minor. I think we both agree that we need a 4C, but the disagreement would be about how good of a 4C we need. I'm also not totally sold on ERod as an everyday player. His overall stat line looks decent, but when you realize he did that with top-6 usage, Its much less decent

I think the other side of the coin is we haven’t seen Rodrigues getting favorable opposition.

 

[mpp9]

I would love if we could get Hintz.

Yeah he’d be sick. Perfect penguin. Day-to-Day but dominates when he plays.

 

[tom_servo]

C'mon, Roope Hintz is not available, right?

 

[Gurglesons]

C'mon, Roope Hintz is not available, right?

Most likely not, but who knows.

 

[K Fleur]

Rodrigues is the favorable opposition

 

[Peat]

The extent of which we disagree here is pretty minor. I think we both agree that we need a 4C, but the disagreement would be about how good of a 4C we need. I'm also not totally sold on ERod as an everyday player. His overall stat line looks decent, but when you realize he did that with top-6 usage, Its much less decent

I think the other side of the coin is we haven’t seen Rodrigues getting favorable opposition.

Break it down and Rodrigues has -

1 point in 75 minutes with Crosby
2 points in 60 minutes with Malkin (pretty much all with Kapanen)

Then 1 point in 16 with McCann-Kapanen and 1 point in 20 with Tanev-Kapanen. He's had 28 minutes with none of Sid, Kapanen, or Geno - not sure on linemates, but probably Jankowski, Blueger, other guys, and that's 28 minutes at 0-3 and putrid advanced stats.

So bad with Crosby, good with Malkin (mightn't have had much to do with it, but good...), good in small samples in Kapanen middle six lines, and bad with none of them. These are all very small samples, but right now he looks like Kapanen's Dom Simon, only with worse possession results.

 

[Pens x]

Haha it’s amazing that Erod continues to trick people into thinking he’s anything more than a healthy scratch.

 

[Pens x]

I think the other side of the coin is we haven’t seen Rodrigues getting favorable opposition.

Yea, let’s play him with our other turd bottom six players. He will surely produce because of better matchups.

 

[Tender Rip]

Petterson for Zajac.

 

[Andy99]

Petterson for Zajac.

I’d rather have Sharangovich...

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Petterson for Zajac.

I'm for it but I don't get how that's a good deal for NJD.

 

[Tender Rip]

I’d rather have Sharangovich...

In the ‘21 playoffs?
Either way Zajac is an UFA who’d likely go back to the Devils immediately. They’d not deal a youngster.

Zajac is a vet gamer, makes our 4th line a matchup line and helps special teams a ton - especially the PK.

 

[Tender Rip]

I'm for it but I don't get how that's a good deal for NJD.

Damn. I knew I forgot something...
Anyway, could be ball park.

 

[Peat]

I'm for it but I don't get how that's a good deal for NJD.

It's not a bad one. They're a team that seems to need NHL quality and bodies all over the place, particularly guys who may have some future. Next year they'll have 12 roster spots to fill with 42m, and I imagine one of them will be LD as they've only got Butcher and Ty Smith under contract there for next season. They can afford to protect him under a 7-3 if they're not protecting Subban, which seems fairly sensible at 9m for 1 year of a guy who seemed to hit regression early. Looking at The Athletic, they seem to reckon Zajac is worth somewhere between a 3rd and a 5th. I know I've hammered the case for Pettersson's trade value being in the pits right now, but does it make sense for NJD to forgo a mid-draft pick to get an NHL standard dman who might improve, even if he's maybe a little overpaid for the foreseeable?

If Hextall offered it, I don't see why they wouldn't take it unless they really don't see a fit for him on their LD. He'd be one bounce-back season closer to economic normality from fetching a better pick in trade if nothing else.

 

[ChaosAgent]

In the ‘21 playoffs?
Either way Zajac is an UFA who’d likely go back to the Devils immediately. They’d not deal a youngster.

Zajac is a vet gamer, makes our 4th line a matchup line and helps special teams a ton - especially the PK.

He can also take and win a key special teams faceoff.

Which we're in short supply of these days.

 

[Tender Rip]

Looking at The Athletic, they seem to reckon Zajac is worth somewhere between a 3rd and a 5th.

Honestly, I think that is oddly low. I'd have no problem at all with Hextall giving up a 2nd, and I am sure another contender would do so gladly at the deadline also if they need a bottom6 C. We've done much worse before, and he ticks a lot of the "need here and now and in the playoffs" boxes.

 

[Gurglesons]

Zajac is slower than Maatta.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Zajac is slower than Maatta.

Gross

 

[Peat]

Honestly, I think that is oddly low. I'd have no problem at all with Hextall giving up a 2nd, and I am sure another contender would do so gladly at the deadline also if they need a bottom6 C. We've done much worse before, and he ticks a lot of the "need here and now and in the playoffs" boxes.

I can't find an example of a guy who cost a 2nd last deadline but when you had guys like DeMelo, Cousins, Scandella, Namestnikov etc.etc. going for 3rds and 4ths last year, I don't see why Zajac should cost more. Cousins is the best comparable, very comparable last few seasons to Zajac minus the insane and unsustainable scoring rate Zajac is on. Top 6/4 guys cost 2nd +, bottom 6ers/bottom pairs cost 3rd to 5ths - that seems to be the way it is.

 

[Gurglesons]

If Flyers fall any further Laughton would be a killer piece for us.

 

[Tender Rip]

I can't find an example of a guy who cost a 2nd last deadline but when you had guys like DeMelo, Cousins, Scandella, Namestnikov etc.etc. going for 3rds and 4ths last year, I don't see why Zajac should cost more. Cousins is the best comparable, very comparable last few seasons to Zajac minus the insane and unsustainable scoring rate Zajac is on. Top 6/4 guys cost 2nd +, bottom 6ers/bottom pairs cost 3rd to 5ths - that seems to be the way it is.

Well, Zajac is also a guy who has been a 1B center for a long, long time does well despite getting the toughest assignments on a bottom feeder for most of recent history. He is being played much like a second line C on the Devils in terms of ice time, and with special teams time and matching up against opponents best, I think that wouldn't change much even if Hischier was back.

In any case, if NJ would do it for less than a 2nd, the more reason to do it I suppose.
I'd just prefer if it was Petterson because of the cap-flexibility it'd provide, as well as re-aligning our cost structure a bit, being able to play a more cost-efficient player on the third pairing.

 

[Ryder71]

If Flyers fall any further Laughton would be a killer piece for us.

The Rangers might be a team that emerges as a threat. Hopefully these two teams split their upcoming series with no loser points accumulated.