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[Big Friggin Dummy]

The rest of this season's such an unpredictable mess. Heading into the summer, I'd run with this;

Jake-Sid-Kahun
Zucker-Geno-Rust
McCann-??-Hornqvist
Simon-Blueger-Tanev
ZAR

Dumo-Letang
??-Marino
Petts-Riikola

Jarry
Murray

Move Bjugs. Move JJ. Let Schultz walk. Try and find a 3C so McCann can move back to wing (or find a 3LW if you're happy with McCann as 3C). Find a LD partner for Marino; a guy with scoring punch and the potential to grow with Marino to become our top pairing in a few years. Certainly not an easy or cheap task, but one that needs to be done, imo. I still don't have faith in Petts as that 2LD right now. I understand that we just handed him 2nd pairing money, but the dude's not good enough and doesn't have the skillset to be that LD compliment to Marino.

Real, real close to being as perfect a lineup as possible heading into the final years of the Sid/Geno/Letang era's window. Just a couple more moves and we should be primed for serious Cup runs for the next few years.

 

[Beauner]

The rest of this season's such an unpredictable mess. Heading into the summer, I'd run with this;

Jake-Sid-Kahun
Zucker-Geno-Rust
McCann-??-Hornqvist
Simon-Blueger-Tanev
ZAR

Dumo-Letang
??-Marino
Petts-Riikola

Jarry
Murray

Move Bjugs. Move JJ. Let Schultz walk. Try and find a 3C so McCann can move back to wing (or find a 3LW if you're happy with McCann as 3C). Find a LD partner for Marino; a guy with scoring punch and the potential to grow with Marino to become our top pairing in a few years. Certainly not an easy or cheap task, but one that needs to be done, imo. I still don't have faith in Petts as that 2LD right now. I understand that we just handed him 2nd pairing money, but the dude's not good enough and doesn't have the skillset to be that LD compliment to Marino.

Real, real close to being as perfect a lineup as possible heading into the final years of the Sid/Geno/Letang era's window. Just a couple more moves and we should be primed for serious Cup runs for the next few years.

Good chance one of Murray or Jarry will need to be traded. If that has to happen I really hope they can get a 1st. A Schneider-like return would be wonderful.

Also I'd keep McCann at C. Maybe see if Bjug can return a bottom-pair D

 

[Flying Dego]

Good chance one of Murray or Jarry will need to be traded. If that has to happen I really hope they can get a 1st. A Schneider-like return would be wonderful.

Also I'd keep McCann at C. Maybe see if Bjug can return a bottom-pair D

Honestly if MM finishes the season well I imagine a pick around 10-15 should be reasonable value. Though it also might be a 2nd+good prospect.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Honestly if MM finishes the season well I imagine a pick around 10-15 should be reasonable value. Though it also might be a 2nd+good prospect.

I'd take a mid-1st for Murray and sprint away laughing. Holy shit.

Good chance one of Murray or Jarry will need to be traded. If that has to happen I really hope they can get a 1st. A Schneider-like return would be wonderful.

Also I'd keep McCann at C. Maybe see if Bjug can return a bottom-pair D

I don't see this team trading either goalie, but if we can get a great return on Murray, I'd pull the trigger.

Doubt Bjugs has any real value. I'd say cap space is better than anything a team would be willing to give us. I'm perfectly fine with a Petts-Riikola bottom pairing, especially if we can land that 2LD and play the top two pairing for the vast majority of the game.

I don't mind McCann at 3C, but I do think he's always had a bigger impact as a winger, and he's better there. Whichever is easier to get, 3C or 3LW, put McCann at the other position. Emphasis on skating and two-way play, if possible.

 

[Flying Dego]

I'd take a mid-1st for Murray and sprint away laughing. Holy ****.


I don't see this team trading either goalie, but if we can get a great return on Murray, I'd pull the trigger.

Doubt Bjugs has any real value. I'd say cap space is better than anything a team would be willing to give us. I'm perfectly fine with a Petts-Riikola bottom pairing, especially if we can land that 2LD and play the top two pairing for the vast majority of the game.

I don't mind McCann at 3C, but I do think he's always had a bigger impact as a winger, and he's better there. Whichever is easier to get, 3C or 3LW, put McCann at the other position. Emphasis on skating and two-way play, if possible.

I think MM has the pedigree to ask for a mid First. Young, starter, cups. You can paint it up for a team desperate for a good option.

Funny I think of McCann opposite. I like him at C, him at wing feels off. But also could be just that him as a wing for Sid/Geno doesn't look right.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think MM has the pedigree to ask for a mid First. Young, starter, cups. You can paint it up for a team desperate for a good option.

Funny I think of McCann opposite. I like him at C, him at wing feels off. But also could be just that him as a wing for Sid/Geno doesn't look right.

Yeah, I'm not sure he has the skillset to be a top-6 winger, but he's a perfect 3rd line winger. Although I thought the same about Rust up until this season, so maybe McCann can grow into that.

 

[TimmyD]

The rest of this season's such an unpredictable mess. Heading into the summer, I'd run with this;

Jake-Sid-Kahun
Zucker-Geno-Rust
McCann-??-Hornqvist
Simon-Blueger-Tanev
ZAR

Dumo-Letang
??-Marino
Petts-Riikola

Jarry
Murray

Move Bjugs. Move JJ. Let Schultz walk. Try and find a 3C so McCann can move back to wing (or find a 3LW if you're happy with McCann as 3C). Find a LD partner for Marino; a guy with scoring punch and the potential to grow with Marino to become our top pairing in a few years. Certainly not an easy or cheap task, but one that needs to be done, imo. I still don't have faith in Petts as that 2LD right now. I understand that we just handed him 2nd pairing money, but the dude's not good enough and doesn't have the skillset to be that LD compliment to Marino.

Real, real close to being as perfect a lineup as possible heading into the final years of the Sid/Geno/Letang era's window. Just a couple more moves and we should be primed for serious Cup runs for the next few years.

I would keep McCann at 3c simply because I think it's easier to find a 3rd line LW then a legit 3C which I think McCann is already

 

[66-30-33]

Maybe it's just me but I rather not have Blue as our 3C until he does not totally suck at faceoffs. Get to atleast 51-52%

 

[OswaldBates]

Well Richard was saying Arizona really likes our prospects, and if they are out by the TD JR is the first guy they call on a Hall trade.

so are we holding our Butts???

 

[Khelandros]

Maybe it's just me but I rather not have Blue as our 3C until he does not totally suck at faceoffs. Get to atleast 51-52%

51-52% gets you to around 2nd line center, sometimes 1st line, based on nhl.com stats with players with atleast 500 faceoffs taken.

 

[Beauner]

Maybe it's just me but I rather not have Blue as our 3C until he does not totally suck at faceoffs. Get to atleast 51-52%

I don't want him at 3C regardless of his faceoff ability. Him at 3C means someone barely NHL-caliber is centering the 4th line. Aim higher than that. If Blueger is the 4C we're in a good spot.

 

[mpp9]

We're one of the best teams in the league with major injuries and Blueger playing 3C minutes.

Add a vet 4C faceoff guy if need be and if you're keeping McCann on wing.

 

[Peat]

I don't want him at 3C regardless of his faceoff ability. Him at 3C means someone barely NHL-caliber is centering the 4th line. Aim higher than that. If Blueger is the 4C we're in a good spot.

I am happy with Bloogs at 3C in isolation but I do love over the top depth as described here.

 

[Louis Hensler]

I would keep McCann at 3c simply because I think it's easier to find a 3rd line LW then a legit 3C which I think McCann is already

Horny skated on the 4th line today -- that's an expensive 4th line winger.

 

[Gurglesons]

I am happy with Bloogs at 3C in isolation but I do love over the top depth as described here.

We have Bjugstad or McCann as 4C. We are fine.

 

[molon labe]

We're one of the best teams in the league with major injuries and Blueger playing 3C minutes.

Add a vet 4C faceoff guy if need be and if you're keeping McCann on wing.

Getzlaf @ 50% or Thornton.

I think Getz would be awesome to have - but at the retention needed would cost us a premium. Either player would likely be a really strong asset in the chippier/slower playoffs.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

He really doesn’t

Right now he kind of does.

Going back to the conversation a couple pages ago- given who's healthy, I peg Riikola as the team's best LD at the moment.

 

[Turin]

Right now he kind of does.

Going back to the conversation a couple pages ago- given who's healthy, I peg Riikola as the team's best LD at the moment.

Because you’re watching him play against 4th liners (when he’s trusted to play at all) while Pettersson is playing 2nd liners.

 

[mpp9]

Because you’re watching him play against 4th liners (when he’s trusted to play at all) while Pettersson is playing 2nd liners.

MP is looking alot like Maatta in getting beat off the rush. He's really hesitant in supporting the play as well.

I get players like that have their uses, but it's sort of annoying we trade Maatta and then just literally replace him at the same cap number.

Not a huge deal, but minor annoyance for me.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'm taking the completely uneducated stance in that Bjugstad isn't coming back because he doesn't want to be traded. Major foot dragging.

Then again, if GMJR really/truly isn't considering trading him - I'm okay with him sitting on the LTIR. Guy has been absolutely worthless. If/when he does come back - I really hope he does a 180 because it's easy to imagine a scenario where he hurts the makeup of this roster.

Bjugstad still being out and not ready just really bothers me considering Crosby has been back like a month and Bjugstad should have been back a week after him and at this point will be back what, maybe 2 months after Sid? If even that? Something doesn't sit right with me about his injury and recovery.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

MP is looking alot like Maatta in getting beat off the rush. He's really hesitant in supporting the play as well.

I get players like that have their uses, but it's sort of annoying we trade Maatta and then just literally replace him at the same cap number.

Not a huge deal, but minor annoyance for me.

I'm not a Pettersson fan but I hope to be proven wrong by him and his game. But so far I'm still not a fan of how easily he is beat along the boards and basically his entire game.

 

[Peat]

We have Bjugstad or McCann as 4C. We are fine.

I read Beauner as talking about why you wouldn't forego both Bjoogs and McCann at C because of trust of Blueger.

 

[JackFr]

Zucker - Crosby - Hornqvist
Kahun - Malkin - Rust
Simon - McCann - Bjugstad/Rental
Aston-Reese - Blueger - Tanev

Only question in my mind is the mix on the 3rd line.

 

[Gurglesons]

MP is looking alot like Maatta in getting beat off the rush. He's really hesitant in supporting the play as well.

I get players like that have their uses, but it's sort of annoying we trade Maatta and then just literally replace him at the same cap number.

Not a huge deal, but minor annoyance for me.

Maatta has been a #4-5 throughout his career and that is worth 3 - 4 mil in today’s NHL.

Pettersson is a net 0 on the ice. He does his job.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Because you’re watching him play against 4th liners (when he’s trusted to play at all) while Pettersson is playing 2nd liners.

Fair point. So Petterson is struggling a bit with his tough assignments, and Riikola is excelling with his easier assignments. Let's experiment and flip them and see what happens.