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Zucker's big issue is that I think he felt the need to try and live up to the price tag the previous idiot paid to acquire him. He tried to do way too many things at once. One shift he'd be trying to play a production-driven role, another he'd be that kinda grunt-work sorta third wheel guy, another he'd be some weird mix of both which accomplished neither, etc. If he just settled into the guy he was in Minny--pre-breakout Rust kinda guy who hustled his ass off, did the dirty work and chipped in occasionally, he'd be fine. But he hasn't been able to, and the lack of a production-driver on his opposite wing doesn't really help him out either.
Kinda like Kap in a way. The dude doesn't know (or is simply incapable) how to really be a production-driver. He and Zucker seem like decent or good 3rd liners, but real disappointments in a scoring line role unless they're in pristine conditions that optimize what they bring. This is not that situation, sadly.
-edit- Guess Manson's off the table. A trade of medium significance going down means the new and improved HFboards is completely shitting the bed.
By the way, Seravalli was allegedly on the radio in Canada and said that the Penguins offered Kapanen and/or Pettersson for Boeser, but the Canucks said no and it seems like negotiations are basically done. The Penguins also offered those two to other teams but couldn't come to agreement on any other trades.
On one hand, I think Hextall offering that package and expecting something good for it back suggests that those two actually have legitimate value. Maybe Hextall is just an idiot, but I don't think Hextall would be offering something that is just ludicrously stupid if he was going after someone like Boeser, even if the trade didn't materialize.
Could all of those struggles posted regarding Zucker and Kap be Coach related?
Kapanen does not match Sully's style, at all. Thought maybe a different, speed/breakaway type guy could be useful here but ultimately not. I think he'll be a popular buy-low candidate for someone in the offseason.
Zucker's struggles are as BFD did - either doing too much or really being a good 3rd line tweener who happened to get paid/a reputation above what he merited. With his contract he'll be tough to move and we'll have to take $$$ back.
I pulled up an old link for what a poster on the mainboard said and the story was from August 4, 2021.
Pittsburgh Penguins looking to trade Marcus Pettersson
Things seem shady.
This is along the same lines as your Crosby/Malkin aren't top centers anymore post.
I agree with the first one. The second one seems odd especially when we are entertaining a player like Garland whose resume looks sparkling largely because of a small GP total.
IDK if Petts is a top for D-man a good team wants though. He's been sheltered here since last season with minutes cut back. Just recently he has been getting more mins and the issues start to come.
Could he still become a solid top 4 guy?......sure, we just don't have the luxury to wait that out and pay him what we are hoping it happens.
Hextall’s more of a Shero then a Rutherford. Should play nicely with Petts and Kapanen if they are moved out.
Zucker on paper was a good acquisition for the team, even if overpaid and too high of an acquisition cost.
In practice he was a bad fit and also exposed as a limited/flawed player. That doesn't mean that every player who profiles like Zucker will flop the same way. It may happen but it isn't guaranteed.
Has Zucker flopped? We expect 20 and 20 from him in an 82 game season. Garland provides 20 and 30. Ultimately what is the difference?
I guess that is my main issue with bringing in Garland is this team learning from the Zucker trade.
We’re a good team and he’s been our #5.
It's been two years after we acquired him and the consensus is that we have 2 wingers worthy of our 2 centers. Read: not including him.
So yeah, he has flopped.
I don’t see how we can accurately judge Zucker on the seasons we’ve seen from him.
He’s not a must keep or anything, but I don’t see how Garland is much different than him.
I read this more like no one is really interested in those two unless they probably come with a first round pick or good prospect lol
Garland or Jarnkrok. Both are solid 5v5 and give honest efforts every shift. Neither would be overly costly. Although Jarnkrok should be pretty cheap in comparison. Solid but unremarkable.
I can see potentially Pettersson costing us. Kapanen we could likely get a shitty UFA back. Or a bad contract.
Garland essentially cost a top ten 1st. I don’t see how he would not be overly costly.
I dont know if Garland is truly a top 6 winger though? I mean I like some of the things he brings but I think we need to do something that is a little bit surefire. That's how we got into much of the messes in the first place. Bring in players who are supposed to work out and they don't.
Perron, Brassard, Zucker (Still hopeful he does something this year), Kapanen, Pearson etc. I mean I like the effort and I know GMJR gets a lot of flack around here and people forget some of the great moves he pulled off ( Kessel, Matheson, Daley, Shultz, Bonino) etc. He definitely kept it interesting, issue is sometimes when those players don't work you gotta pay to move them and it looks pretty bad. GMJR had no shame in correcting players that weren't working out
So he was not on the radio saying this today?
Yeah that’s my hang up with people saying Garland is a “pure goal scorer” or pushing his 5v5 metrics.
Like sure we can say those things, but dude has not paced past 20 or so goals ever. That’s a “pure goal scorer” now?
What?