Confirmed Signing with Link: [PIT] Pens re-sign Guentzel (5 years, $6M AAV)

[FrankGallagher]

Thanks for all my money Sid!

 

[Beauner]

Makes Nylander's contract look pretty good

Lmao what

 

[Empoleon8771]

Seems like a contract in line with what was expected to me.

Yeah, pretty much every Penguins fan expected him to get a deal like 6 years at $6 million. Maybe some went as low as $5.5 million, and the Nylander situation did give some a scare, but most expected a contract very similar to this.

 

[Peat]

He's been great in the playoffs, no argument there but 6 mill still seems high for a guy that hasn't hit 50 points in a season imo

He's only had one season to be fair. Prior to the season, his full season pace for all his NHL games, regular season and play offs, was 60. I think he's currently pacing for 75. And that's all with very little time on the Pens' top power play unit.

The money feels very justified from where I'm sitting, and I'm delighted Rutherford gave it to him now rather than waiting for him to prove how much he could score in a full regular season and paying an extra half million or so for the privilege.

I feel like this is a lot of money for him, no? I mean hes a good player but I feel a lot of his production is who he plays with. Hes at a ppg pace right now but I just havent seen enough to like that type of contract.

Sid's had a lot of wingers, I don't think any of them have done this sort of thing with him.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

oof

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Makes Nylander's contract look pretty good

Jake Guentzel scored twice as many goals in game 6 against Philadelphia as William Nylander has scored in his playoff career.

 

[Tavares to Marner]

Fair ass deal really

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Was expecting 5.5M but 6 is fine. The reason he works so well with Sid is he has a very high hockey iq and can understand what Crosby is trying to do. He's legimately talented.

 

[sd1976]

Jake Guentzel scored twice as many goals in game 6 against Philadelphia as William Nylander has scored in his playoff career.

Yeah because 14 games is an awesome sample size.

 

[Taytro]

Sid's had a lot of wingers, I don't think any of them have done this sort of thing with him.

For sure. I'm definitely not trashing him. Guentzel is a perfect fit but on any other team I dont think he produces as he is now. I dont see him as a 6million dollar player, he just produces at that clip with Sid.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Crosby gets another dude payed

 

[lidstromiscool]

Seems a little bit high, maybe he's just a player I expected to take a discount though.

 

[Zirakzigil]

So according to HFBoards, does he have trade value now?

Great deal

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Yeah because 14 games is an awesome sample size.

Okay, how about every game since the start of the 2017-2018 season?

Jake Guentzel - 102 points in 130 games (0.78 PPG)
William Nylander - 67 points in 97 games (.69 PPG)

Is that a big enough sample size for you?

How about every game of their careers?

Jake Guentzel - 156 points in 195 games (0.8 PPG)
William Nylander - 145 points in 207 games (0.7 PPG)

 

[Captain Mountain]

Probably paying a bit more based on who he plays with and riding the percentages a bit, but he's a good, young player and you aren't going to get those guys locked up much under a 6 mil AAV anymore.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Crosby gets another dude payed

It's funny that we didn't see these comments about Nylander when he got his extension, since he played a bunch with Matthews. Or Ehlers when he signed, since he played with Schiefele and Wheeler.

 

[canucks20]

Makes Nylander's contract look pretty good

I actually like the Nylander contract. But if anything, this makes the Nylander look worse. Guentzel is a heck of a player.

They are both good players on pretty good contracts. Just have no idea why Leafs fans always have to bring up Leafs in every thread. Gets tiring

 

[Schooner]

He's only had one season to be fair. Prior to the season, his full season pace for all his NHL games, regular season and play offs, was 60. I think he's currently pacing for 75. And that's all with very little time on the Pens' top power play unit.

The money feels very justified from where I'm sitting, and I'm delighted Rutherford gave it to him now rather than waiting for him to prove how much he could score in a full regular season and paying an extra half million or so for the privilege.



Sid's had a lot of wingers, I don't think any of them have done this sort of thing with him.

That makes sense, its easy to forget the difficulty to find that kind of fit for a winger for Crosby, and he has done well along side him. Thanks for pointing out the season stat too, kind of forgot his first season he had the injury bug

 

[Peat]

For sure. I'm definitely not trashing him. Guentzel is a perfect fit but on any other team I dont think he produces as he is now. I dont see him as a 6million dollar player, he just produces at that clip with Sid.

Maybe. His absurd ES production would definitely go down... but at the same time, on another team, he might get more PP time and in his favourite position (which is where Sid stands) and I think that might even out.

That makes sense, its easy to forget the difficulty to find that kind of fit for a winger for Crosby, and he has done well along side him. Thanks for pointing out the season stat too, kind of forgot his first season he had the injury bug

No injury, just he was up and down from the AHL.

 

[wej20]

For sure. I'm definitely not trashing him. Guentzel is a perfect fit but on any other team I dont think he produces as he is now. I dont see him as a 6million dollar player, he just produces at that clip with Sid.

He's a very smart player, think he'd produce 60 points on most teams.

 

[66-30-33]

Hey look...another thread not related to the Leafs, another thread with a Leafs player in it.

Toronto Maple Leafs

 

[Taytro]

Maybe. His absurd ES production would definitely go down... but at the same time, on another team, he might get more PP time and in his favourite position (which is where Sid stands) and I think that might even out.

Possibly, we wont know. I see him as a mid 6 winger playing with the best player in the world. Now hes getting paid as a top line guy for it. Hes the beneficiary of a good situation.

 

[dracom]

Initially I thought the price was high, but after looking at this actual stats I'm with the majority that it's a good deal. 48 in 82 for his first full season and now 33 in 36, he'll definitely beat his record for a season. And yeah, everyone knows his playoff success. Good deal for Pitts.

 

[Schooner]

I actually like the Nylander contract. But if anything, this makes the Nylander look worse. Guentzel is a heck of a player.

They are both good players on pretty good contracts. Just have no idea why Leafs fans always have to bring up Leafs in every thread. Gets tiring

I guess I didn't come across as I intended, did not bring up Nylander as a leafs thing but more as a most recent comparable. I think with pittburgh's early faltering it kind of fell through the cracks of how good his season has been so far

 

[Scott Stevens]

Makes Nylander's contract look pretty good

How? Him and Nylander are polar opposites. Guentzel has proven exceptionally useful beyond the first week of April. Nylander skipped the wrong two months. His absence would not have been noticed had he stopped dressing after game 82.