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What is the case for Crosby over the players who outscored him in goals and points and actually play defense and PK?
Listen if ovechkin could be top 10 in scoring maybe he'd get a sniff. But it's been 6 years since he has beenWhat is the case for Crosby over the players who outscored him in goals and points and actually play defense and PK?
What makes the West any better with Ana, SJS, La, Ari, and Min?None of the stats from the crappy North validate that the North isn't crappy.
What makes the West any better with Ana, SJS, La, Ari, and Min?
and the west have 5 teams that were in the bottom 11 last year... North had 2Well for one they have two teams that were in the top 10 in the standings last season, whereas Canada had zero.
What is the case for Crosby over the players who outscored him in goals and points and actually play defense and PK?
His argument is the same as Patrick Kane, had Chicago made the playoffs. Cat is a little further behind Kane than Guentzel is to Crosby, but Cat is top 3 in goals. Its probably going to come down to whether voters view Pens winning the division without Malkin (+ overall man games lost to injury) as more valuable to what Marchand did to get Boston into the 4th seed. Third spot is between Crosby and Marchand with the loser being 4th IMO. Can't see either guy leapfrogging Matthews.
Marchand scored more goals, more points, and is far superior defensively than Crosby, and Marchand kills penalties whereas Crosby does not.
So I guess what I am saying is I have no idea how anyone could argue Crosby was the better player this year.
What is the case for Crosby over the players who outscored him in goals and points and actually play defense and PK?
Crosby doesn't deserve to be a finalist, but who exactly are you referring to? The only player who outscored him who might be better defensively is Marchand and the only two who play significant PK minutes are Marchand and Marner. Marchand was certainly better this year, but you make it sound like there's a number of guys.
McDavid, McKinnon, Crosby
Sorry Matthew doesnt deserve to be in the top 3. Doesnt matter how many goals, 0.5A/G is a embarrassing low number to be taken seriously esp when you add it all together and your not even in the top5 for overall scoring. The only trophy he deserves is the Rocket. Marner should get more votest for the Hart then Matthews, hes the driver on the team.
And that he gets the Rocket, well deserved trophy, doesnt mean hes a auto for top3 of the Hart. Im not saying he didnt have a incredible season. Just dont think he is in the covo for the Hart, cause its arguable that Marner might be more valuable to the Leafs.
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No he's not. This is a ridiculous narrative that is purely because y'all just refuse to believe that Matthews is as good as we say he is.
But nope, the Matthews hate can never end. Best goal scorer in the league by so much that it’s actually comical.
Does one season of superior goal scoring really put you ahead by so much it's actually comical? I mean, just a year ago he didn't win the Rocket. He was third.
Going back to 2018/2019Best goal scorer in the league by so much that it’s actually comical
Going back to 2018/2019
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Maybe we view comical differently. He is defintely the best goal scorer but 1 more goal than Drai and 2 more than Ovechkin isn't exactly a comical gap.
They have an award for the guy that leads the league in goals:
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Am I crazy to say the best goal scorer has been Ovechkin in the last 5 years? Just based on the award for that actual achievement. 4 of the last 5. Austin now has 1. Maybe wait till he wins 2 or 3 more?
Look at his goal scoring totals under Keefe (its around 100 games so not a small sample). No one touches him.
He is so far ahead. Over the last two seasons (including time with Babcock) he’s around 15 goals ahead of second place.