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So you trade one #1 center for another... why do you build a team that way? Eichel isn’t available probably so no need to think about trading for him. Also, Laine would be an excellent addition but at what cost. I’m all for adding but draft picks need to be considered due to the expansion draft (I’m in favor of working a trade with Seattle and not exposing our players so they pick a specific one)
I would, everyone needs to think about this for a second. We are going to have to extend a 30 yr old Couts at what 7 or 8 years at 8-10 million. I would rather have a 22 yr old for the next 10 years at a similar number who easily will be a top 5 player in the league. If Couts was 3-4 yrs younger I wouldn't do it. We also have Patrick and Hayes that are similar to Couts. Don't think this will happen but I would do it.
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Buffalo is not trading Eichel for 2 years of control of Couts plus.
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I'd even throw in Hagg to sweeten the pot.
This is exactly why he should be traded. The Vorcek/Giroux/JVR contracts are not going to age well. The Couts one will put them to shame.....On the plus side the other 3 will be over by the time that goes bad
Striiker
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The Giroux and Voracek contracts only have 2 and 4 years left. And both are still playing fantastic. There's really no reason to worry about either.
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Maybe the pitch can center on off-ice benefits. Does Buffalo have a stray cat problem?
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I don't like that train of thought one bit. This is better: do any Sabres even have nicknames?
#WinningInTheMargins
GapToothedWonder
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So your own rational here puts into words why the ++ you mention would have to be a large enough that the deal is almost a guaranteed bad deal for the Flyers. In the modern cap era you can't be giving away a quantity of premium assets for a few extra years of control. Will the Flyers be in a tough position with Coots contract, yes. But will he likely play very well over the first 4 or 5 years of what will probably be a 6 or 7 year deal, also yes.
Do you trade Coots plus multi premium picks and prospects so that you don't have to face the possibility of
a year or two where Coots plays below his AAV. What is the opportunity costs to the Flyers?
Striiker
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Hayes can’t chase cats. He is too busy not giving the ball back in fetch.
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During the Meltzer-AV interview [ horrible fanboy/softball interview]. The one thing that was interesting was that AV wants Morin to play 50_60 games in the AHL first. Wouldn't Morin have to pass waivers first? Just asking...
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These things resolve themselves, if Morin looks great in camp, he probably won't get past waivers, but he won't be waived, either.
If Morin looks meh, it's doubtful anyone is going to grab a rookie D-man coming off major knee surgery and stash him on their roster.
If Morin looks meh, it's doubtful anyone is going to grab a rookie D-man coming off major knee surgery and stash him on their roster.
LegionOfDoom91
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Yeah. But a claiming team would have to keep him on their NHL roster. They couldn’t send him down to the AHL as it would just go back to the Flyers (or the original team) who’d then have the option to reclaim Morin & have the option to send him to the AHL themselves without going through the waiver process again.
I think given he hasn’t played, realistically that makes him not claimable on waivers this upcoming year. I think a team would rather try to might make a trade with the Flyers (for like a conditional late round pick, essentially nothing) to be the original team if they had any interest in him.
Morin may pass at final roster cut time, when most teams are set roster wise, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was claimed either. It really depends on if just one other team likes him more than their 7th or 8th guy. It's certainly possible as the bar is rather low. Also that team's 7th/8th guy may be able to be sent down so there isn't really any downside for the claimer, potentially.
The Flyers could keep him at 8th as things currently stand roster wise and still have a spare forward for the road. They may sign a vet though or just decide that Morin needs the work and it is worth the risk (and they are close to cutting bait anyway and don't care that much if he is claimed).
This chatter to kind of prepare the fan base to losing him for nothing seems to indicate they will waive him, even if he may be claimed, or will try to trade him for a depth pick. Kind of a bummer but I don't really blame them with as many young D that have passed Morin on the depth chart by now. I don't see the harm of keeping him as the 8th and emergency reserve for a season if he is healthy but they really want him to play and it does make sense that he needs to.
The Flyers could keep him at 8th as things currently stand roster wise and still have a spare forward for the road. They may sign a vet though or just decide that Morin needs the work and it is worth the risk (and they are close to cutting bait anyway and don't care that much if he is claimed).
This chatter to kind of prepare the fan base to losing him for nothing seems to indicate they will waive him, even if he may be claimed, or will try to trade him for a depth pick. Kind of a bummer but I don't really blame them with as many young D that have passed Morin on the depth chart by now. I don't see the harm of keeping him as the 8th and emergency reserve for a season if he is healthy but they really want him to play and it does make sense that he needs to.
renberg
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It all depends on health with Morin. Assuming that Gostisbehere is gone, if his legs are fine, he’d make the club.
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