He may not be old enough and his net front play has probably deteriorated a bit.
Edit: I see Cascadia beat me to the joke. Timing is everything.
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Edit: I see Cascadia beat me to the joke. Timing is everything.
It’s a sad day when you agree with Mark Madden lol…
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Mark Madden: Change of style could solve Penguins' problems, but ego stands in the way
If the Pittsburgh Penguins don’t have a good, hard think about doing what’s needed instead of what they prefer, they could be buried by Thanksgiving. No playoffs for the first time since 2006. The Penguins are too old, not fast enough and not good enough to play a high-octane blitzkrieg
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pistolpete11
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Hard to argue. We've been saying that around here for years, though. It's only common sense that mid-to-late 30 year olds won't be able to win with a speed game and that they would have to adjust.It’s a sad day when you agree with Mark Madden lol…
Mark Madden: Change of style could solve Penguins' problems, but ego stands in the way
If the Pittsburgh Penguins don’t have a good, hard think about doing what’s needed instead of what they prefer, they could be buried by Thanksgiving. No playoffs for the first time since 2006. The Penguins are too old, not fast enough and not good enough to play a high-octane blitzkrieg
Whether by accident or not, I think a bunch of Hextall's acquisitions are in that direction, too. Rakell, Carter, Petry, Rutta. These guys are all coming from teams that play a bigger, slower, more methodical, more defensive game but aren't completely devoid of skill. And while I have issues with some things Hextall has done (the Kap extension in particular was inexplicable), that's why I want to see what new coach could do with the roster first. Some adjustments might still be needed, but there are a lot of pieces there.
It's also why I think Trotz is the perfect coach for this team at this moment. That's the game that he coaches by default, but he's also had success with highly skilled offensive players. Will he wear out his welcome like he did in NY? Probably, but that's fine. I don't want him behind the bench after the era is over anyway and I doubt he'd want to be part of a rebuild either. Give him a 3 year deal or a 4 year deal with an opt out or something and it's a win-win-win.
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Well the Kap deal wasn't inexplicable, you know.
That's Sami's kid! He can't NOT sign Sami's kid! Get him some walkin' around money for new goofy hats!
That's Sami's kid! He can't NOT sign Sami's kid! Get him some walkin' around money for new goofy hats!
I don't disagree with the theory of what Mark Madden is saying, but I think he's also forgetting how bad we look when we sit back and trap.
Look what the Rangers did to us every time we did that in the playoffs last year.
Trapping with a lead should be doable, but the Pens suck at it. Maybe it's Sullivan. Maybe the personnel. Maybe both. It'd be nice if they could figure that out though because high octane all the time poses the many risks that Madden pointed out in his article.
Look what the Rangers did to us every time we did that in the playoffs last year.
Trapping with a lead should be doable, but the Pens suck at it. Maybe it's Sullivan. Maybe the personnel. Maybe both. It'd be nice if they could figure that out though because high octane all the time poses the many risks that Madden pointed out in his article.
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That's OK RyanIt’s a sad day when you agree with Mark Madden lol…
Mark Madden: Change of style could solve Penguins' problems, but ego stands in the way
If the Pittsburgh Penguins don’t have a good, hard think about doing what’s needed instead of what they prefer, they could be buried by Thanksgiving. No playoffs for the first time since 2006. The Penguins are too old, not fast enough and not good enough to play a high-octane blitzkrieg
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If sully treated him like Ruhwedel he’d be getting preferential treatment.
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I didn't give Hextall a free pass on Carter. I have been on board to not like that signing at all but it's not something that destroys us either. It's not like he threw a long term deal at Turbo or traded for Matheson and his long ass contract or gave the same to Pettersson and Marino.
At best he's given extensions to deals FSG likely told him he needed to do - Rust, Letang, Malkin. And then Sullivan's extension is directly a FSG deal. McGinn and Kapanen to me are victims of the system more so than anything. You want to sit here with your usual bullshit then at least f***ing understand the problem first.
Sullivan wants to preach speed and tempo and yet the two players that have speed and tempo are not working in his system at all. What the f*** does that tell you? Sullivan has no f***ing clue what his system is anymore and hasn't since he's come down from the cup high and had to settle in and really drill down his system in year 3.
Josh Archibald was signed by Hextall. A GM that previously has never signed or traded for him or has any overlap with him outside of Sullivan. And yet you think everything is 100% on Hextall? The good and bad with Hextall is that he's patient. He's kept picks and has tried to draft and restock the bare prospect pool and hasn't made any idiotic long term signings of free agents that kill the cap. His biggest issue now is that FSG mandated the Sully contract extension and the biggest move he can make to fix this team is now one that makes his employer look bad.
Why the f*** are you even a fan?
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Yep.
I didn’t full buy into Sullivan sapping creativity but the last two years seem to be perfect examples of it.
Funny, Tocchet alluded to pretty much the same thing on TNT, except he was talking about being a HC. Says the TV gig is much more chill. Good for him, the TNT crew is vastly superior the plastic ESPN landfill.
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So, why did you re-sign Kap if he sucks under Sully’s dog **** system? Also, blaming sully for Hextall paying Kap $3.2 million is insane to me. It’s convenient that you neglected to mention landing 35 year old Petry, who has been a huge letdown, or the fact that sleepy retained DeSmith who is back to being an ECHL goalie.
I put the blame on both of them. Neither has any right to still be here.
I’d be fine with letting Sully go first, as long as you freeze Hextall from extending any current players on the team.
Sullivan is more of a problem than Hextall right now. I don’t disagree. But Hextall is far from an innocent party here. And where did I say I blame Hextall 100%? I’ve made it clear that we needed to move on from Sully for the last several years - maybe you were one of the countless posters defending him all of these years?
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I still blame Rutherford for the Kapanen monstrosity even though he's been gone for almost two years. He took Kap's lineage and gave it undeserved pedigree with the first round pick. He should do us a solid and bring Kap to Vancouver. A lot of people dress silly in Vancouver. NO, @Better Call Maul , not you, I've no doubt your style is dialed in...
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Or sleepy didn’t have to re-sign Kap…
But but but it’s JR’s fault! Hindsight and stuff!
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Didn't Sullivan say he had to do a better job coaching Kapanen this season or something?
psssst... it didn't work!
psssst... it didn't work!
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That's one instance I'm not gonna hold against Sully. Kap's a f***ing squirrely-brained schmuck who is gonna be in Switzerland in like 3 years.
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That's one instance I'm not gonna hold against Sully. Kap's a f***ing squirrely-brained schmuck who is gonna be in Switzerland in like 3 years.
Probably, yeah.
But he HAS slid since arriving here. And he wasn't THIS bad in Toronto. I mean... this isn't even me being mean. I wanted to try to rationalize this deal. But he's literally useless. They'd probably get more out of some WB/S 4th liner right now. I don't even know if I've seen him make one positive play in weeks.
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He is a lock to make the absolute worst decision with the puck on his stick.
Just a complete dipshit. Permanent prospect brain where he's always trying to play through struggles and sort himself out while trying to find and settle into his role.I was kinda shocked when Hextall brought him back tbh. Dude was JR's pet project, thought for sure he'd be dealt or allowed to walk.
But hey, only two more years of Carter and Kap, eh?
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Sami's kid, my dude. Of course Hex wanted to give him every chance.
lol... Kap and Carter. They're a DUO!
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There's very few positions in any field that pay $1M+ for a desk job where you don't have to be "switched on" all the time.
I'd want that life for a couple of years to build a buffer of financial stability. But then I'd want to exit stage left.
@Gurglesons Alright dude, I gotta' fall on my sword on this one. Less than 48 hours after my defending Yohe, The Athletic released his latest:
"If anyone can right the Penguins’ ship, it’s Mike Sullivan"
This clearly f***s my argument. I relent. Damnit.
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This is the only stance like 90% of the local media guys know how to take.
"MmMmmMmmmMmmmm... boot."
Yep. It's like the "Chuck Todd Effect" on Meet the Press. Never follow up with a tough question, else you may lose access. Took Rossi a while to learn that one, but GMJR finally scared him enough.
Ummmmm. You do understand not everything posted here is intended to be interpreted literally, right?
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I do. But I also know that way too many people still have faith in Ron Hextall…
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