Confirmed with Link: Pens trade 1st (No. 31) + Oskar Sundqvist for Ryan Reaves and Blues 2nd (No. 51)|Pt.2

[Cherpak]

Russia's tough to scout in a lot of ways because the travel times are insane for teams, and the Russian clubs are VERY protective of their promising players.

If you don't have the resources to have a dedicated Russian scout, it makes sense to scout the other Central European and Scandinavian leagues more heavily IMO.

Yep. Malkin could write a book on his adventure getting to the Penguins.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Sure seemed after the draft interview with JR that they were set on Lauzon regardless. Kostin may have never even been on their radar.

This is why I find it kinda dumb comparing players who were products of picks that were traded. It assumes that you would pick the same player as the team you traded the pick to.

 

[JTG]

exactly why you don't trade hagelin or hornqvist.

Hagelin is a bit different because he makes what a scoring winger should and he doesn't score. Hagelin for a million less is fine.

 

[Pens1566]

Who cares if he's willing to play in the AHL? How does that willingness make him a better prospect or closer to the NHL?

I took it to mean that he doesn't have the "NHL or stay in Russia/KHL" mindset that seems to be prevalent with newly drafted Russians. Removes the risk of them staying there.

 

[Gert B Frobe]

Reaves is a plug. Sundqvist + no. 31 for Reaves and no.51? Don't know much about Sundqvist. Sounds like a waste of a 1st.

Time will tell what that 31 could have been

 

[Giskard]

Reaves is a plug. Sundqvist + no. 31 for Reaves and no.51? Don't know much about Sundqvist. Sounds like a waste of a 1st.

Time will tell what that 31 could have been

Well, GMJR saw what was available at 31 and said "No thank you, I prefer Reaves".

 

[mikethelegacy]

I'm a fan of the deal. I watch St. Louis a decent amount and I like Reaves' game. He is faster than anyone gives him credit for and he wins most of his battles. Not gonna put the puck in the net a lot but he's not a giant liability either.

Let's face it, Sundqvist wasn't making this team. Every training camp I saw him in, he didn't seem to fit the identity. Reaves is an NHL-caliber player and Sundy isn't. Not for this team at least.

In reality, we got the better guy (or better fit) and we dropped 20 spots, and I'm guessing we STILL got the guy we would have drafted all along. No harm, no foul.

 

[Corvidae]

Well, GMJR saw what was available at 31 and said "No thank you, I prefer Reaves".

Yeah based on Randy Sexton's info so Buffalo could take him at #37. Marcus Davidsson will be a beast, collusion, book it.

 

[Pengu]

Was it a bad deal.
For me yes. You don't involve 1st round picks for 4th liners, period. 1 year left too no less.
But Jim obviously thought it was a serious matter to address so I'm not going to loose sleep over it. I just hope Reeves can be somewhat useful in the playoffs and not a complete waste of space.

 

[Peat]

I would say Pechursky ... Zlobin were already in the QMJHL and Pavlychev has been in the US for years before been drafted.

Russia's tough to scout in a lot of ways because the travel times are insane for teams, and the Russian clubs are VERY protective of their promising players.

If you don't have the resources to have a dedicated Russian scout, it makes sense to scout the other Central European and Scandinavian leagues more heavily IMO.

So, based on this, we probably shouldn't expect the Pens to be in on any Russians anytime soon?

 

[tom_servo]

Was it a bad deal.
For me yes. You don't involve 1st round picks for 4th liners, period. 1 year left too no less.
But Jim obviously thought it was a serious matter to address so I'm not going to loose sleep over it. I just hope Reeves can be somewhat useful in the playoffs and not a complete waste of space.

Someone please tell me why a first round pick, even if it's the very last one, is too sacred to trade into the second round.

 

[Terrapin]

Reaves is a plug. Sundqvist + no. 31 for Reaves and no.51? Don't know much about Sundqvist. Sounds like a waste of a 1st.

Time will tell what that 31 could have been

lol. stopped reading after 'Reaves is a plug'

 

[SCPens]

Reaves is a plug. Sundqvist + no. 31 for Reaves and no.51? Don't know much about Sundqvist. Sounds like a waste of a 1st.

Time will tell what that 31 could have been

You don't know much about Sundqvist huh? It sounds like you don't know much about Reaves either. Why don't you share something you do know with us?

 

[BHD]

I think we've exhausted ourselves with talk about the trade. You can go to the roster building thread if you really want to talk about it.