Post-Game Talk: Pens/Rangers: Cut & Paste

[Icarium]

We have come back from behind in all 5 of our wins, 4 times trailing at the start of the third and once trailing 4-2 and having to kill a 5 on 3 in the second. Such a flawed team but this kind of resilience is still very nice to see (well, except if you think they need to lose more in order for Sully to get fired). Problem is, there aren't 3 on 3 OTs or shootouts in the playoffs.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Let’s just agree to disagree. I really like Jake, but he too has been bad. I think the shoulder injury is an easy excuse to justify his poor play, that’s just me.

Would you be giving Geno a free pass this season if he suffered an injury over a year ago, or a player that you don’t care for?

Go Pens

Anytime a guy has a catastrophic injury, I’ll be defending his play a year later. Doesn’t matter if it’s Malkin or some fourth liner.

Guentzel has only played about a dozen games since he wrecked his shoulder.

Dude deserves a lot more time than that to figure it out.

It’s pretty obvious he’s playing tentative because of his shoulder. His game is based on playing with wreckless abandon and being fearless.

Hard to look like himself when that’s what made him so good.

 

[Andy99]

I would like to see the Pens win in regulation against a team that actually plays defense...when they beat the Isles or Boston or Philly in regulation, let me know...

 

[Pens x]

Anytime a guy has a catastrophic injury, I’ll be defending his play a year later. Doesn’t matter if it’s Malkin or some fourth liner.

Guentzel has only played about a dozen games since he wrecked his shoulder.

Dude deserves a lot more time than that to figure it out.

But the flip side of that is that he’s only had to play in 13 games in 13 months, so he’s had plenty of rehabilitation and rest.

I’m sure he will figure it out sooner than later.

 

[EightyOne]

Anytime a guy has a catastrophic injury, I’ll be defending his play a year later. Doesn’t matter if it’s Malkin or some fourth liner.

Guentzel has only played about a dozen games since he wrecked his shoulder.

Dude deserves a lot more time than that to figure it out.

It’s pretty obvious he’s playing tentative because of his shoulder. His game is based on playing with wreckless abandon and being fearless.

You aren't wrong

But what if we don't have two or three years for him to hone into whatever he's going to be if it's not a PPG power forward?

Injuries suck. Recoveries are hard. But I'm running a business not a feel good give people time center?

Signed, a devils advocate

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

But the flip side of that is that he’s only had to play in 13 games in 13 months, so he’s had plenty of rehabilitation and rest.

I’m sure he will figure it out sooner than later.

You claimed to have played the game, so it feels odd to explain that a dozen games isn’t shit.

It’s not rehab bro... it’s thinking you are going to pop out your shoulder and fighting the mental element.

Guentzel has always taken a pounding with his fearless style and scored goals that way, won puck battles, made crazy plays, etc.

He can’t just play a tentative game and be effective like he used to be.

You aren't wrong

But what if we don't have two or three years for him to hone into whatever he's going to be if it's not a PPG power forward?

Injuries suck. Recoveries are hard. But I'm running a business not a feel good give people time center?

Signed, a devils advocate

Are we talking about Guentzel still or...?

Two years ago he put up 76 and 40... last year he was doing even better before he blew out his shoulder.

 

[EightyOne]

You claimed to have played the game, so it feels odd to explain that a dozen games isn’t shit.

It’s not rehab bro... it’s thinking you are going to pop out your shoulder and fighting the mental element.

Guentzel has always taken a pounding with his fearless style and scored goals that way, won puck battles, made crazy plays, etc.

He can’t just play a tentative game and be effective like he used to be.



Are we talking about Guentzel still or...?

Two years ago he put up 76 and 40... last year he was doing even better before he blew out his shoulder.

Lol I'm not even sure. I don't see who youre arguing with. Which is probably something you should consider doing do that poster lol

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Lol I'm not even sure. I don't see who youre arguing with. Which is probably something you should consider doing do that poster lol

I’m way too lazy to use the ignore feature.

I just scan past certain posters I don’t care for and never reply to them, etc

Pens X obviously isn’t one of them for me, he and I get along - mostly.

 

[heysmilinstrange]

Well shit, if you and two rando yinzers say so, I'm convinced!

 

[The Old Master]

with all the guys we have on the ir, any points are a plus.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

CC @ColePens

 

[ColePens]

CC @ColePens

This is what 10/10 looks like

 

[Ogrezilla]

CC @ColePens

randy you are the hero we need around here

 

[Ogrezilla]

I just realized that the highlight of HF Pens drama is going to happen when POJ gets benched as we get healthy. I'm excited for it.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I just realized that the highlight of HF Pens drama is going to happen when POJ gets benched as we get healthy. I'm excited for it.

If he gets benched and is still playing like this then I have no idea what Sullivan is thinking and I've been saying that a lot for like two years, now.

 

[mpp9]

If he gets benched and is still playing like this then I have no idea what Sullivan is thinking and I've been saying that a lot for like two years, now.

Im all for giving young D-men the necessary time to develop. But with the way the season is this year, just play him. Shelter him when we get healthy if necessary.

 

[Ogrezilla]

If he gets benched and is still playing like this then I have no idea what Sullivan is thinking and I've been saying that a lot for like two years, now.

yeah, that's the stuff

not saying it's wrong, but man will it be fun. Because we all know it's gonna happen right?

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I don't think it will happen, no. And I have little faith left in Sullivan.

Like MPP said if/when the D gets healthier just bump him down and give him more sheltered/opportune minutes.

Provided he generally keeps up this high level of play.

A defenseman performing at a high level out of nowhere is a gift even this coaching staff wouldn't spurn out of ego/being cute. Similar to Marino's situation. Who, by the way, I am anxious to see play on his correct side. One of the few positive things that can be said about Letang going down with injury.

 

[mpp9]

I don't think it will happen, no. And I have little faith left in Sullivan.

Like MPP said if/when the D gets healthier just bump him down and give him more sheltered/opportune minutes.

Provided he generally keeps up this high level of play.

A defenseman performing at a high level out of nowhere is a gift even this coaching staff wouldn't spurn out of ego/being cute. Similar to Marino's situation. Who, by the way, I am anxious to see play on his correct side. One of the few positive things that can be said about Letang going down with injury.

Coaches tend to give a shit load of leash to young guys who think the game well and make good decisions. It’s not like POJ is some one dimensional winger.

If he hits a rookie wall, so be it. But with the shortened season and the unlikely possibility of a long playoff run, I think that’s unlikely to happen.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yeah exactly if he was some hotshot young wing that sniped a few on his callup I might be prepared for a HS not long down the line but coaches trust defensemen who perform way more because it's such a pressure cooker position.

 

[Peat]

Even beyond the fact that Sullivan has generally backed youngsters in POJ's shoes, you've also got to consider the possibility they decide to trade one of the LD when everyone's fit.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

You guys are funny. "When everyone is healthy". Haha good one.

 

[The Old Master]

PP sucks.
PK sucks.
PO awesome!

Thought of the day: when your offense is going through Cody Ceci, you have problems.

That all being said, I’ll take the 2pts, but you know we’re just setting ourselves up for a 1st round exit .

better that than no1 over all pick that's not ours.

 

[The Old Master]

He's been awful for the last year + from my eye test and I own a Dumo jersey. Plus he's about to hit 30.

if we move him it better be for a ex draft protected player. (or picks)

 

[The Old Master]

It'd be funny if they kept playing terrible hockey all year and just kept winning like this somehow.

this is not me, just posting for somebody else that looks like me; getting the most out of a bunch of misfits is what sully does best.