GDT: Pens cross the border to smoke some Leaf @ 7:00 EST/ 4:00 PST

Dinfire

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As soon as they take first place they mail it in. This game isn't all Murray's fault, but there is no reason he should be playing over Jarry unless he's hurt or it's a back-to-back.
 
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Honour Over Glory

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Was he as old as Schultz when he broke it?
Oh definitely not, but remember Zucker also fractured his leg and he came back fine. Schultz's game isn't so much his skating stinks right now, his decision making is so crap, he's losing his coverage, his offense has dried up, he's playing like he's a #7/8 right now.
 

Ragamuffin Gunner

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You can't say if it's Murray's fault or not, the game hasn't been great overall. But people have got to stop blaming Murray for games like this, he's had games where he's clearly stunk and tonight isn't really his fault. He could have stopped maybe 1-2 of those, but the Pens defense has been ass. Absolute ass.
The thing is that even with them playing like ass, a 2-0 deficit isn't that out of the question. a 4-0 deficit is. It's not MMs fault that they pens were awful tonight or are losing, but he is still allowed to make saves when the Pens aren't great.
 

TooManyHumans

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You can't say if it's Murray's fault or not, the game hasn't been great overall. But people have got to stop blaming Murray for games like this, he's had games where he's clearly stunk and tonight isn't really his fault. He could have stopped maybe 1-2 of those, but the Pens defense has been ass. Absolute ass.
No way in hell is this Murray’s fault. It’s crazy that people think it is. One clue that it isn’t Murray’s fault is that we haven’t scored a freaking goal.
 

Turin

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This roster deserves the benefit of the doubt. It’s not very flawed when healthy, Toronto would be a total joke if they didn’t really take it to the Pens after their goalie basically saved their season in period one.
 

Zirakzigil

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Fine guys, I finally agree, it’s Murray’s fault tonight. If he had scored 2-3 goals already the Pens would be in this one. :eyeroll:
 

Honour Over Glory

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I swear, Letang saves more goals at the goal line than any other defender in the league. There are at least 10+ instances of Letang being there to clear the puck out before it goes in.
 
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KIRK

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How many teams in the league have 4 wings as good as Zucker?

That was an approximation. I mean, Rust isn't Zucker.

Put another way . . . how many of the top teams have two Doms as third wheels where the 2nd wheels are no better than Zucker/Rust caliber?

Sorry, I'm just afraid it's not enough. Not in the way the game is being played structurally right now, with the Pens speed advantage of 3 years ago pretty much gone.

Anything CAN happen, of course, but it will be an uphill climb after round 1 or 2.
 
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Ugene Magic

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LOGiK

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Oh definitely not, but remember Zucker also fractured his leg and he came back fine. Schultz's game isn't so much his skating stinks right now, his decision making is so crap, he's losing his coverage, his offense has dried up, he's playing like he's a #7/8 right now.

oh yeah. I'm not leaning on the broken leg thing as a crutch for him. He's mega bad all around.
Schultz was 28-ish when he broke it so not _that_ old.
 

TheNorthPenguin

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he’s going to be on the third pair or replaced by Ruh when Marino comes back...
With the way our D is built, basically defensive guys on the left, puck movers/skaters on the right, we really need to have one for the 3rd pair as well. Even if it's a lesser type, but someone in that vain, because JS has just been beyond awful.
 

Bowski

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Why the F has Sully gone back to Zucker-Sid-Horny? That line was trash at the best of times, are we doing some incognito tanking?
 

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No way in hell is this Murray’s fault. It’s crazy that people think it is. One clue that it isn’t Murray’s fault is that we haven’t scored a freaking goal.
People have this need to blame Murray or Jarry for games where the Pens defense has absolutely given up and the offense didn't help at all. In this game, it's both, in the games Jarry was getting hung out to dry, Pens were out chanced in the 3rd period something like 1 scoring chance for, 30+ against or something ridiculous. Jarry has been better overall, but in no f***ing way is this game Murray's fault.
 
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