Confirmed with Link: Penguins re-sign Derrick Pouliot (1 yr/$800k) and Josh Archibald (2 yrs/$675k per)

[Speaking Moistly]

Agreed entirely. He needs to come in and show the offense he was drafted for, even if he makes too many mistakes on D. I'd rather him start from a comfortable spot and build from there.



When was this? I must have missed that If I replay my Pouliot highlight reel from this season, it is just a series of replays showing completely undefended guys scoring goals followed by DP drifting into the picture shortly after

One of my most memeorable thought processes went something like "uh oh...That was played terribly but it's a forward trying to act as a defenseman and they had no idea what to do.... it's ****ing Pouliot... god damn it."

His last game of the season was one of his better ones iirc but we all know that's not necessarily a real compliment.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Pouliot at that price is worth a gamble in that he can turn it around. It's not like we have a lot of other young guys. Corrado and Taylor.

Corrado
Prow
Taylor

Basically nothing much after that. Bengtsson is done I think, that kid ran into some insane injury bad luck.

Tinordi is interesting, the guy has the size and the bloodlines, but his recent troubles with the substance abuse program wasn't good, I don't know what he took, if it was drugs or PED's, or hell if he smoked a joint (harmless as hell) and got in trouble for that. But cocaine is a huge problem in the NHL apparently, according to Daly anyway, where it's increasing and etc etc...

But Tinordi was a former 1st round pick, had some promise, if he's ready to turn the page and work hard, he's in the right system/team/coaching/environment.

 

[Ogrezilla]

well here's hoping he works out. If he somehow puts it all together and becomes the guy Shero thought he was drafted we would be in a great freaking spot and he'd be a great fit here. If he can even just be a 3rd pairing guy though, I will be thrilled. Like I said, I mostly just want to see his strengths actually show this year, even if he still shows his weaknesses too.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

That's just WBS though, I think next year we could have Almari, Hall, Lauzon, and maybe 2yrs after that, Palojarvi if he develops well.

We still have Birks in Michigan Tech (he's heading into year 3) and Segalla left U.Conn recently and played for the Nailers last year and 1 game for WBS.

 

[Gurglesons]

well here's hoping he works out. If he somehow puts it all together and becomes the guy Shero thought he was drafted we would be in a great freaking spot and he'd be a great fit here. If he can even just be a 3rd pairing guy though, I will be thrilled. Like I said, I mostly just want to see his strengths actually show this year, even if he still shows his weaknesses too.

I honestly see him following the path of Cole. We're going to hang on to him, because he's cheap depth and honestly he isn't as bad as people make him, but he needs to be traded to actually stick in the show. He's pretty much followed Cole's career path so far.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Corrado
Prow
Taylor

Basically nothing much after that. Bengtsson is done I think, that kid ran into some insane injury bad luck.

Tinordi is interesting, the guy has the size and the bloodlines, but his recent troubles with the substance abuse program wasn't good, I don't know what he took, if it was drugs or PED's, or hell if he smoked a joint (harmless as hell) and got in trouble for that. But cocaine is a huge problem in the NHL apparently, according to Daly anyway, where it's increasing and etc etc...

But Tinordi was a former 1st round pick, had some promise, if he's ready to turn the page and work hard, he's in the right system/team/coaching/environment.

Tinordi got busted for PEDs.

 

[hooverdam]

Hunwick and Cole can "effectively" play both sides. If one of our top four go down with injury (which they will) we can hope Pouliot will be the first called upon.

It is kind of weird that we have both Pooh and Ruh though.

It's Hunwick and Ruhwedel that makes me doubt Pouliot's future here. Like obviously I'm a Pouliot fan, he's just in a really weird spot here.

With a healthy defense, we're already playing Cole on the right side otherwise there's just no room for Hunwick. Let's say Letang goes down early on, then it becomes Schultz-Cole-Hunwick on the right side (and I have no idea how effectively Hunwick plays the right side, but I'll trust you). That's dicey to me.

It's also just problematic to tell a prospect "Okay here's how you get into the lineup: blow the doors off in camp and then hope someone gets injured. Oh and hope the coach doesn't still like Ruhwedel better." For someone with confidence issues, that's kind of a crappy outlook. He can't just earn a spot in this lineup on merit, I think that's my main point.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Moar Archie!!!

 

[Nakawick]

Corrado
Prow
Taylor

Basically nothing much after that. Bengtsson is done I think, that kid ran into some insane injury bad luck.

Tinordi is interesting, the guy has the size and the bloodlines, but his recent troubles with the substance abuse program wasn't good, I don't know what he took, if it was drugs or PED's, or hell if he smoked a joint (harmless as hell) and got in trouble for that. But cocaine is a huge problem in the NHL apparently, according to Daly anyway, where it's increasing and etc etc...

But Tinordi was a former 1st round pick, had some promise, if he's ready to turn the page and work hard, he's in the right system/team/coaching/environment.

I think it is wise for the Pens to get guys who are young enough to be salvaged. Not sure that any one then has the potential upside of Pouliot though. He looked decent before he was benched after the Schultz trade.

 

[ResignCraigAdams]

Someone on the blueline will go down. It's up to Pouliot to take advantage of the opportunity.

 

[Gurglesons]

It's Hunwick and Ruhwedel that makes me doubt Pouliot's future here. Like obviously I'm a Pouliot fan, he's just in a really weird spot here.

With a healthy defense, we're already playing Cole on the right side otherwise there's just no room for Hunwick. Let's say Letang goes down early on, then it becomes Schultz-Cole-Hunwick on the right side (and I have no idea how effectively Hunwick plays the right side, but I'll trust you). That's dicey to me.

It's also just problematic to tell a prospect "Okay here's how you get into the lineup: blow the doors off in camp and then hope someone gets injured. Oh and hope the coach doesn't still like Ruhwedel better." For someone with confidence issues, that's kind of a crappy outlook. He can't just earn a spot in this lineup on merit, I think that's my main point.

He's played the right side the majority of his career? He played the left side with Yandle, that's about it from what I remember. I've never been a big Avs fan so never really watched them when he was with them.

Someone on the blueline will go down. It's up to Pouliot to take advantage of the opportunity.

It is also up to our staff to give Pouliot a chance to build up his confidence by letting him string more than three games together.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Both Archie and Pooh will be carried on the NHL roster unless they're dealt away(possibly included in the 3C deal but don't have to be).

They 100% ain't losin' either to waivers for nuttin'.

 

[UnderratedBrooks44]

Did they have to give one way deals per the CBA? I don't get that part of it.

 

[Al Smith]

Corrado
Prow
Taylor

Basically nothing much after that. Bengtsson is done I think, that kid ran into some insane injury bad luck.

Tinordi is interesting, the guy has the size and the bloodlines, but his recent troubles with the substance abuse program wasn't good, I don't know what he took, if it was drugs or PED's, or hell if he smoked a joint (harmless as hell) and got in trouble for that. But cocaine is a huge problem in the NHL apparently, according to Daly anyway, where it's increasing and etc etc...

But Tinordi was a former 1st round pick, had some promise, if he's ready to turn the page and work hard, he's in the right system/team/coaching/environment.

I thought I saw someone post something translated from Swedish that Bengtsson was back training again.

 

[hooverdam]

He's played the right side the majority of his career? He played the left side with Yandle, that's about it from what I remember. I've never been a big Avs fan so never really watched them when he was with them.



It is also up to our staff to give Pouliot a chance to build up his confidence by letting him string more than three games together.

Correct, and that won't really happen if he's relying solely on injury to make it in the lineup. Especially with Ruhwedel as a natural right handed option when that's probably where our injuries will be (Letang).

We did this with Despres. Despres earned every inch of his ice when the defense was injured, and it still didn't matter when guys like Scuderi and Orpik were healthy.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I thought I saw someone post something translated from Swedish that Bengtsson was back training again.

If that's the case, I wonder if he comes back to WBS or just stays in Sweden.

 

[SEALBound]

This is 100% a "This is your LAST change here Derrick" contract.

 

[mrwirez]

Well, look at how hard people are on Maatta, now compare him to Pouliot....honestly....there's not a whole lot to like.

Olli Maata: "Whew, a new whipping boy"!

 

[cygnus47]

This is 100% a "This is your LAST change here Derrick" contract.

Hopefully they give him a shot, and not a 'scratched for a month, get two games and then benched again" shot.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

One positive thing about Shero picking Pouliot instead of Forsberg or Trouba: he's only costing the team $800k per year instead of $6+ million per year. Easier to fit under the salary cap.

 

[Peat]

Both Archie and Pooh will be carried on the NHL roster unless they're dealt away(possibly included in the 3C deal but don't have to be).

They 100% ain't losin' either to waivers for nuttin'.

8 dmen, 14 forwards. They can't all stay up, not unless you believe we're gonna have a guy on IR every day of the year. Even for us that feels a bit negative!

 

[mrwirez]

Moar Archie!!!

YOU GOT IT!

 

[henkenorrswede]

well bengtsson not really done yet
hes back training after a personal training Schedule and also trains with NHL swedes that are back here in sweden during the summer.

The big question is how his body recover after every hard trainingshifts that remains to be seen.
Still theres a lil bit of optimism to bee had here since they discovered the sickness early and thanks to his young age the odds are better.
I have a post on this here on forum and i report when i have new info.

 

[Giskard]

Did they have to give one way deals per the CBA? I don't get that part of it.

I don't think so, this is just their second contract after the ELC and it's not out of normal to get a two-way.
Archibal will stay in the NHL because he would be claim for sure, but Pouliot deal maybe is to scare some other "cash strapped" team that would claim him if waived and then to try to sneak him to the AHL, in which case they would had to pay him the full 800k anyway.

 

[wej20]

Did they have to give one way deals per the CBA? I don't get that part of it.

I think the one-way deal helps keep the caphits down.