Mister Ed
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Allen+Blais/Walman+3rd for Howard
Allen's term is too long I think, otherwise, it would be a good deal.
Allen+Blais/Walman+3rd for Howard
Yep and Holland pretty much said on 97.1 the ticket, That he's going to wait a couple more months to see where the team is heading. So either way if Howard is dealt it wont be until February 26 2019 so plenty of time.Why is this thread still open?
JR just said he's not interested in trading for a goalie.
Pens need a solid D-man way more than they need a backup rental goalie.
Howard & Nyquist (both 50% retained) to Pens for 1st, 2nd & 3rd & Sprong/D-prospect.This isn't really surprising, Howard is held in higher esteem by NHL execs than he is by message board posters, he has been for his entire career seemingly. I don't think he winds up going for a 1st round pick, but Holland has no current reason to open talks with less.
You have to consider the message. I think Holland has to take the first and he knows that, but trading Jimmy in early December for anything but a solid deal is going to go over terribly in his own dressing room. You cannot spend as much time talking about culture and make a move that out of touch with how your dressing room would receive it. I know people hope it is for a nothing return but that is closer than the deadline. If he is dealt before Christmas it will be for a bad deal for the other teams fans.
My real problem if I am Pittsburgh or St. Louis is that Howard has an abysmal track record injury wise at this point and after each time he goes down during the season he can never seem to regain his form. He has done this look like a top 10 goalie in the league start a few times. I mean ideally somebody does offer too much as a Detroit fan. To me Pittsburgh's window matches up well with him, I think his troubles as a puck handler could cause some issues for their back-end but they are a team that shouldn't be wasting what time they have left with Crosby and Malkin. That justifies a little over-payment in a scenario like this. I just don't think anybody is willing to pay Holland's asking price yet and I don't think that drops until after the New Years. Given that when I look at the schedule I think December is going to be a debacle for the Wings I am not sure that is wise, but I am really not sure what options Holland truly has.
By the way I would be fascinated to see Nyquist on the Pens, that is a name off Detroit that I think would improve their top 6 a lot and make a big impact playing with their two centers. Again salary would be tough, but that is one that intrigues me if the Pens get it back on the rails and get some of this sorted, they make a ton of sense as a rental for him in my opinion.
Howard & Nyquist (both 50% retained) to Pens for 1st, 2nd & 3rd & Sprong/D-prospect.
I just figured they'd make moves to facilitate, ergo the 50% retention to help in that regard.lol. This isn't NHL 18. You can't turn off Salary Cap mode.
Please no, gramps Rutherford.
We already have 3 awful goalies, we don’t need 4.