Speculation: Penguins interested in Jimmy Howard
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FireBird71
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Detroit isn’t doing any of that..plus if...and it’s a big if...he is traded it will be later...way later
Empoleon8771
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Why wouldn't Detroit retain any money? He's a rental and they'd get a significantly better return with retaining money.
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Don't disagree with you. But how much more do you think you get out of, lets say, 30% retained Howard?
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Do you think the market will increase for Howard at the deadline? If anything even with retention, I think that might backfire. I don't think that Detroit can snag a wildcard spot in the Atlantic this year, why not maximize the return on Howard?
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You'd get more based on more teams being able to acquire Howard, it would drive up the price because you'd have maybe 3 or 4 teams bidding on him, instead of 1. If you just trade Howard at full salary, you may have Carolina seriously interested, but not many others because of his cap hit. But at 50%? Suddenly the Penguins, Flames and Blues could afford that, so more teams enter the bidding.
I don't know how retaining 30% would impact his value, but I do know that retaining 30% would cause more teams to be interested in him, which drives up the price based on simple supply and demand. I think that may raise the price from a 2nd and a meh prospect to a 1st.
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I’m saying Detroit has no intention on trading him and will extend him for a couple years
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I don't like the fact the Pens are rumored to be giving up that 1st round pick. Unless Murray is either out for the year or the Pens organization doesn't think Murray can ever rebound, it doesn't make sense to pay big for Howard while DeSmith is handling the starter duties fine in Murray's absence/struggles.
At the very least, JR better make sure it's lottery protected.
At the very least, JR better make sure it's lottery protected.
A solid top 4 dman would be a much better use of a 1st rounder.
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Exactly.
I think that's a bigger need -- both short and long term -- than a starting goalie. We have in-house solutions to the goalie thing (unless they truly believe Murray is a write-off), but don't have in-house solutions for another legitimate top four D-man.
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well that is dumb. If somebody comes calling with a 1st Ken will say sorry Jimmy pack your shit.
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If that’s the actual case then yes of course but Ill believe he gets a first when it happens
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If Detroit can get a 1st round pick from the 20th (Pit) or 30th (Stl) place team in the league right now they need to jump on it.
Holland already tried to move him once before. They may re-sign him this off season, but they'll certainly trade him this year, especially if they can get a 1st round pick.
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Id like seeing Howard moved to a contender.. Hes a good goalie and getting older and id like to see what he can do on a contending team
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I doubt he gets traded but would love to see him get a chance at a cup. He is a decent goal tender and doesn't deserve the hate he gets.
I disagree with the bolded. Yes, I think Howard gets traded if Holland gets a surprisingly big offer like a 1st or Kyrou, etc.
A late 2nd might pry him out of Holland's hands. I'd probably bet against it though.
I'd be very surprised to see Howard moving if a 3rd or less is offered.
Mlive released a report admitting the wings want to resign him. Further, shipping out Howard for less than what would be perceived as an over-payment just seems to go against Holland's MO. He seemingly prefers to support his young players with veterans rather than going the scorched earth method of rebuilding. His history as a GM and his approach through the rebuild thus far would lead me to believe he would rather keep his goalie than settle for a late 2nd or 3rd rounder.
For clarity sake, I wouldn't expect anyone to offer more than a late 2nd. I just think that is what it would take for Holland to actually engage with a trade.
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