Salary Cap: Penguins future roster-building (2017-18 and beyond) | Contract/FA charts in Post #1

[ColePens]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Estimated 2017-18 ceiling​

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$75.5-$76M​

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Projected dollars committed |

59,500,000​

Projected July 1 cap space |

~16,000,000​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

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30​

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9,500,000​

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9,500,000​

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9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

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29​

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8,700,000​

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8,700,000​

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8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

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29​

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6,800,000​

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6,800,000​

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6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

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29​

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4,250,000​

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UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

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28​

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4,000,000​

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4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Jake Guentzel|

LW​

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22​

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734,167​

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734,167​

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RFA​

Daniel Sprong|

RW​

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19​

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692,500​

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692,500​

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RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

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24​

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640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

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24​

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625,000​

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RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

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24​

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625,000​

|

RFA​

Defense.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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.2019-20​

Kris Letang|

D​

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29​

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7,250,000​

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7,250,000​

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7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

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22​

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4,083,333​

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4,083,333​

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4,083,333​

Ian Cole|

D​

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27​

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2,100,000​

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UFA​

Goalie............,.......​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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2017-18​

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.2019-20​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

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32​

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5,750,000​

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5,750,000​

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UFA​

Matt Murray|

G​

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22​

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3,750,000​

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3,750,000​

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3,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Zach Aston-Reese|

LW​

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22​

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925,000​

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925,000​

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RFA​

Thomas Di Pauli|

C​

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22​

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742,500​

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RFA​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

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22​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

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22​

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692,500​

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RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

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27​

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612,500​

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UFA​

Defense...............​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Jeff Taylor|

D​

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22​

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925,000​

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925,000​

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RFA​

Ethan Prow|

D​

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24​

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730,000​

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RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

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22​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Goalie..................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Sean Maguire|

G​

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23​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

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21​

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589,167​

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RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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News and notes​

Mark Streit|

D​

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39​

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5,250,000​

|Served his purpose as a deadline rental

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

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37​

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3,850,000​

|Is the long international nightmare over?

Trevor Daley|

D​

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33​

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3,300,000​

|Declining, but immortalized as the anti-Scuderi

Ron Hainsey|

D​

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35​

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2,833,333​

|History with Rutherford could earn an extra look

Nick Bonino|

C​

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28​

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1,900,000​

|No way to tell which Bonino you'd be paying for

Matt Cullen|

C​

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40​

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1,000,000​

|Thanks for your service, Dad -- Enjoy retirement

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Better than expected as an extended fill-in

David Warsofsky|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Great AHL production -- Not an NHL defender

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Depth defender who showed a few flashes

Kevin Porter|

C​

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30​

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575,000​

|Likely to move on after not sniffing a call-up

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

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25​

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575,000​

|Group VI UFA was solid in WBS before injury

Tom Sestito|

LW​

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29​

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575,000​

|Token minor-league goon

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player..........................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

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26​

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1,400,000​

|Hard to imagine anyone raising his stock more

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

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22​

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863,333​

|*Sigh* At least his next contract will still be cheap

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

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25​

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800,000​

|In line for a reasonably priced mid-range deal

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

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22​

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700,833​

|Will they protect him in the expansion draft?

Conor Sheary|

LW​

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24​

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667,500​

|Aggressive agent could make for tough negotiation

Josh Archibald|

RW​

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24​

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659,167​

|Decent speed will likely keep him in the organization

Frank Corrado|

D​

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23​

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600,000​

|Worthwhile project to keep around and develop

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

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22​

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585,000​

|Needs to take bigger step from AHL supporting cast

Tim Erixon|

D​

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25​

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575,000​

|Telling that he wasn't close to a call-up this season

Stuart Percy|

D​

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23​

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575,000​

|Unfortunately just another Leafs' first-round bust

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

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18​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

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20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

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21​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

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19​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

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21​

|Maine (HEA)

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

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18​

|Luleå HF (SHL)

Connor Hall|

D​

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18​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

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20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

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21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|

D​

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19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

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19​

|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

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26​

|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

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21​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

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23​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[Dipsy Doodle]

No matter how many times I see it, I still can't get over how well we're set up in terms of a supporting cast of wingers for Sid and Geno from here on out.

It took 10 years, but we finally have forwards who can make the most of their talents.

 

[The Gobfather*]

No matter how many times I see it, I still can't get over how well we're set up in terms of a supporting cast of wingers for Sid and Geno from here on out.

It took 10 years, but we finally have forwards who can make the most of their talents.

Until they resign Kunitz for 10 more years

 

[Ogrezilla]

No matter how many times I see it, I still can't get over how well we're set up in terms of a supporting cast of wingers for Sid and Geno from here on out.

It took 10 years, but we finally have forwards who can make the most of their talents.

Now we just need Bones to do well enough in the playoffs for us to keep him, but for his regular season struggles to be enough to keep his cost down.

 

[Penske]

Now we just need Bones to do well enough in the playoffs for us to keep him, but for his regular season struggles to be enough to keep his cost down.

Yeah if he keeps this up I'd look at re signing him. I could see a 3yrs for 9-10 million. Wouldn't go beyond that though

 

[#66]

No matter how many times I see it, I still can't get over how well we're set up in terms of a supporting cast of wingers for Sid and Geno from here on out.

It took 10 years, but we finally have forwards who can make the most of their talents.

It really is crazy. The organization is in such a healthy state that I hope they dont sign any FAs. See whats in house first, give money to Schultz and Sheary and then access assets. Keep everything in house.

One huge thing is that we can trust the player development. It used to be such a hindrance but I think thats whats really turned this organization on its ear over the past few years.

 

[Riptide]

It really is crazy. The organization is in such a healthy state that I hope they dont sign any FAs. See whats in house first, give money to Schultz and Sheary and then access assets. Keep everything in house.

One huge thing is that we can trust the player development. It used to be such a hindrance but I think thats whats really turned this organization on its ear over the past few years.

We need a #3C, and we need to make (or at least look into making) some sort of change on the blueline. The only place we do not need to make any changes is our winger situation. Assuming we're not moving anyone out (Hagelin or Hornqvist), we're so full there, that we do not have room for the guys we have, let alone even thinking about adding someone else to the mix.

 

[Empoleon8771]

With Schultz cooling off significantly recently, I wonder if that might bring down how much he costs to re-sign. I feel like he gets a big jump in money per year the second he hits 50 points. That's why I'm thinking $3.33 million for Sheary might be too low too, since he's now at 50 points in 54 games. Even if he regresses from that, he's still worth $4 million+, so why wouldn't he be shooting for higher than that?

I don't think the Penguins will even have the cap space to be active in free agency at this point. Just re-sign Bonino if he's willing to come back for a not ridiculous price (maybe 3 years at $10 million) and get all of your RFAs under contract, that should use up most of the space.

 

[Riptide]

With Schultz cooling off significantly recently, I wonder if that might bring down how much he costs to re-sign. I feel like he gets a big jump in money per year the second he hits 50 points. That's why I'm thinking $3.33 million for Sheary might be too low too, since he's now at 50 points in 54 games. Even if he regresses from that, he's still worth $4 million+, so why wouldn't he be shooting for higher than that?

I don't think the Penguins will even have the cap space to be active in free agency at this point. Just re-sign Bonino if he's willing to come back for a not ridiculous price (maybe 3 years at $10 million) and get all of your RFAs under contract, that should use up most of the space.

It'll depend on the term. If he's looking for more then 1 year, while he can probably get into the 3.5-4.25m range (if we're talking 3-4+ years), he won't get that on a 1 year show me contract. If he signs a 1 year deal, it'll be between 2-3m. Even a 2 year contract will probably still be 3m or less.

But I agree that between Schultz, Sheary, Bonino (or #3C) and Dumoulin that we won't have much (if any) money without making other moves (Maatta/Hagelin) to go shopping.

 

[Gurglesons]

With Schultz cooling off significantly recently, I wonder if that might bring down how much he costs to re-sign. I feel like he gets a big jump in money per year the second he hits 50 points. That's why I'm thinking $3.33 million for Sheary might be too low too, since he's now at 50 points in 54 games. Even if he regresses from that, he's still worth $4 million+, so why wouldn't he be shooting for higher than that?

I don't think the Penguins will even have the cap space to be active in free agency at this point. Just re-sign Bonino if he's willing to come back for a not ridiculous price (maybe 3 years at $10 million) and get all of your RFAs under contract, that should use up most of the space.

I think this is the conversation we have to have about Bonino.

Just because you score points at the beginning or the end of the year doesn't effect your price. The entire season is taken in account. Bones in terms of points has been a very solid # 3.

Regardless of how Bonino or Schultz have looked during parts of the year, they are both setting themselves up for pretty huge contracts this offseason unless they take a discount to stay with the Pens.

It really sucks, but at the same time good to see both players most likely cash out.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think this is the conversation we have to have about Bonino.

Just because you score points at the beginning or the end of the year doesn't effect your price. The entire season is taken in account. Bones in terms of points has been a very solid # 3.

Regardless of how Bonino or Schultz have looked during parts of the year, they are both setting themselves up for pretty huge contracts this offseason unless they take a discount to stay with the Pens.

It really sucks, but at the same time good to see both players most likely cash out.

If we can get him for "solid 3C" money and he plays anything like he did last playoffs (easily 2C cailber) then I would probably be happy to bring him back. Again though, it depends on if he really can just keep the switch flipped again. If he played at that level all year, keeping him wouldn't even be an option.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It'll depend on the term. If he's looking for more then 1 year, while he can probably get into the 3.5-4.25m range (if we're talking 3-4+ years), he won't get that on a 1 year show me contract. If he signs a 1 year deal, it'll be between 2-3m. Even a 2 year contract will probably still be 3m or less.

But I agree that between Schultz, Sheary, Bonino (or #3C) and Dumoulin that we won't have much (if any) money without making other moves (Maatta/Hagelin) to go shopping.

I still think you're too low on Sheary to be honest. I struggle to see him taking less than $4 million per year. Even if you just look at his point totals and ignore how many games he has missed, 50 point wingers cost above $4 million even as RFAs.

I think this is the conversation we have to have about Bonino.

Just because you score points at the beginning or the end of the year doesn't effect your price. The entire season is taken in account. Bones in terms of points has been a very solid # 3.

Regardless of how Bonino or Schultz have looked during parts of the year, they are both setting themselves up for pretty huge contracts this offseason unless they take a discount to stay with the Pens.

It really sucks, but at the same time good to see both players most likely cash out.

A. Schultz is a RFA, he doesn't have enough leverage to get a huge contract. I'd be shocked for him to get above $4.5 million on a medium term deal. I think 4 years and $18 million is what they'll ultimately settle on. Schultz can't just go to the highest bidder, the Penguins still have his rights. It seems like people either don't know this or are ignoring it.
B. Bonino is a 35 point 3rd line center. How is he on pace t oget a huge contract? As a free agent, I might see him hitting $4 million. I might see that. Realistically, I think him getting $3.33 million isn't unrealistic at all, especially if he stays here.

At this point, I think both Schultz and Sheary get $4.5 million per season, Bonino gets $3.5ish million per season if he stays with the Penguins and Dumoulin ends up at $3 million. Seeing how that's about $15.5 million combined, I'm not sure they'll have any cap space to play with this summer even if Fleury and Hagelin come off the books.

 

[Shrimper]

Next season, if we wanted to go and have a laugh

Guentzel-Sid-Sheary
Aston Reese-Malkin-Kessel
?-Sundqvist-Hornqvist
Kuhnhackl-??-Wilson/Archibald

That team would be incredibly fun to watch.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Next season, if we wanted to go and have a laugh

Guentzel-Sid-Sheary
Aston Reese-Malkin-Kessel
?-Sundqvist-Hornqvist
Kuhnhackl-??-Wilson/Archibald

That team would be incredibly fun to watch.

A. Why are we putting Aston-Reese on the 2nd line already
B. Sundqvist as a 3C next season would be a nightmare scenario based on his play this year in the NHL
C. What happened to Hagelin and Rust?

 

[Nakawick]

I don't see Sundqvist as an everyday 4C next year. At least I would not have him as #4 on the depth chart to start the year. We need to make sure he can be a full time NHLer first.
I posted this trade proposal on the trade board under the latest Matt Duchene thread rather than create another one. Given how things look from the outside and all of the trade rumours, etc, I would be surprised if Duchene is a member of the Aves next year and that he will be traded at or before the draft.
Maatta
Hagelin
Jarry
2017 1st
2018 1st or Prospect not named Spong, Sundqvist or ZAR.

Duchene
Weircoch
2017 3rd

Anyone have an opinion on that proposal?

 

[Ogrezilla]

I doubt we can get Duchene without including Guentzel or Sprong.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Why are we still talking about Duchene? We likely can't afford him and definitely don't need him.

 

[deakka]

So, when will we sign Vecchione and break HF from all the pens haters tears? =)

 

[66-30-33]

So, when will we sign Vecchione and break HF from all the pens haters tears? =)

Doubt we do but would be nice. Hopefully his teammate Taylor put in a good word for the Pens. Probably picks Hawks.

 

[Shrimper]

A. Why are we putting Aston-Reese on the 2nd line already
B. Sundqvist as a 3C next season would be a nightmare scenario based on his play this year in the NHL
C. What happened to Hagelin and Rust?

I didn't say it would make sense.

But Hagelin taken by LV. Forgot about Rust.

Swap Sundqvist and ??? on the 4th.

 

[Nakawick]

Why are we still talking about Duchene? We likely can't afford him and definitely don't need him.

Because Duchene improves our odds of winning multiple championships IMO. Now is the time to strike, the Pens will likely never have a greater opportunity now for the rest of our lifetimes. I am not looking to be satisfied win one more cup, I am much greedier than that.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Because Duchene improves our odds of winning multiple championships IMO. Now is the time to strike, the Pens will likely never have a greater opportunity now for the rest of our lifetimes. I am not looking to be satisfied win one more cup, I am much greedier than that.

but if it costs Guentzel or Sprong, I say it's not worth it. We need cheap good players more than we need another expensive great player.

If we aren't going to play Hornqvist with Sid, I would consider changing sights from Duchene to Lando and moving Hornqvist.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Because Duchene improves our odds of winning multiple championships IMO. Now is the time to strike, the Pens will likely never have a greater opportunity now for the rest of our lifetimes. I am not looking to be satisfied win one more cup, I am much greedier than that.

Trading the farm for Kopitar would also make the Penguins better, but that doesn't mean they should do that. Trading for Duchene seems to be just reading for a big name just to trade for a big name in my eyes. I'd much rather try and target a top pair LD or a LD upgrade on Maatta with the assets it would cost to get Duchene than trade those assets for Duchene.

but if it costs Guentzel or Sprong, I say it's not worth it. We need cheap good players more than we need another expensive great player.

If we aren't going to play Hornqvist with Sid, I would consider changing sights from Duchene to Lando and moving Hornqvist.

This makes more sense, especially with Guentzel being a RWer as of now it seems like. I'd still rather not do that though. In all honesty, I might just look to move Hornqvist for a similarly aged top-4 LD this summer and do nothing else.

 

[Nakawick]

but if it costs Guentzel or Sprong, I say it's not worth it. We need cheap good players more than we need another expensive great player.

If we aren't going to play Hornqvist with Sid, I would consider changing sights from Duchene to Lando and moving Hornqvist.

With a bit of luck and a year of good development, ZAR and or Sunny can replace some of what Horny brings.

 

[Nakawick]

Trading the farm for Kopitar would also make the Penguins better, but that doesn't mean they should do that. Trading for Duchene seems to be just reading for a big name just to trade for a big name in my eyes. I'd much rather try and target a top pair LD or a LD upgrade on Maatta with the assets it would cost to get Duchene than trade those assets for Duchene.

You are missing my point. We can afford Duchene, both asset wise and cap wise. His versatility to be stacked into the top 6 on wing, field depth as a 3C or move up to fill in for injured Geno or Sid. There are more teams that are going to be good in the East very soon. Toronto, Buffalo, Carolina, Columbus, Florida all have good young teams. Tampa, Rags, Sens, Habs are all solid.