Post-Game Talk: Penguins 4, Red Wings 1 - The Playoffs Edition

[Ryder71]

Since Feb 1
Jake - 31 GP - 15 G
Sid - 31 GP - 12 G
McCann - 31 GP - 11 G
Bjugstad - 31 GP - 8 G
Malkin - 17 GP - 7 G
Teddy - 21 GP - 6 G
Kessel - 31 GP - 6 G
Rust - 22 GP - 6 G

That is 7 of our forwards on pace for 20 Gs or more in an 82 game season.

You were referencing how much better we looked with those guys back. And I was referencing that same time frame as to how abysmal we were at scoring without them. Why are you moving the goal posts?

 

[Gurglesons]

You were referencing how much better we looked with those guys back. And I was referencing that same time frame as to how abysmal we were at scoring without them. Why are you moving the goal posts?

Because when you play players above their roles it effects their production. We have great depth unlike last year when it was the idea of great depth.

 

[PensandCaps]

Caps have Oshie. He scares me more than any other player in the playoffs.

playoff oshie is no joke.

Him hovering in the slot on the PP is terrifying.

Hits, skates hard, has all the skill, great shot.

He's Like a wayyyyy better version of Patric Hornqvist.

 

[Ryder71]

Because when you play players above their roles it effects their production. We have great depth unlike last year when it was the idea of great depth.

I agree with your premise that losing such key cogs will hurt our offensive output (obviously). My contention here is that it shouldn't be that severe or that profound of a drop off. That to me is concerning. Crosby had what two points in eight games? That's not even close to reasonable production for a player of his caliber at this time of year. And it's not that he hasn't played well in other facets of the game, he has. But we need more production. And that goes for every other key player who went cold.

 

[Son Goku]

This will be an interesting post game analysis because i have not read a single thing about the game.

++++ Murray: My #1 star of the night. I thought he was a stud. Absolute stud. He was the reason we won, IMO. That was the most Matty Ice game i've ever seen.

++++ Sid/Kessel/Geno/Letang: All the main stars were stars. There were some areas of improvement for Sid/Geno, but I loved how they all worked. Hell just seeing Letang on the ice is solid.

Kessel especially. I counted 5 individual times he came back and helped on defense and stopped grade A scoring chances. FIVE. Phil Kessel. FIVE. That is insane. Great game by Phil and not even for his points.

++++ Bertuzzi: Weird Up here but I noticed he was specifically soft on Letang multiple times where he could have lined him up. That guy usually doesn't take those chances lightly. I thought he was playing safe to Letang. Maybe i'm making it up but I specifically noticed it in the 3rd period. I've seen that dude run wild before. Whatever made him slow down tonight, I'm thankful for it. He could have run Letang a couple times and didn't.

++ I loved Rusty/McCann. I loved Bjugs. Simon is an up/down for me. I just really liked how the boys played.


- Maatta: This is my only down. I don't think he's good and he's slower than ever.

not following in Todd Bertuzzi’s foot steps

 

[Pens x]

Why did he have a spit cup?

And yuck! That wouldn't have went over well with me. Did he apologize?

He had a big old wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth the entire game. I was with clients so I had to compose myself.

 

[Gurglesons]

playoff oshie is no joke.

Him hovering in the slot on the PP is terrifying.

Hits, skates hard, has all the skill, great shot.

He's Like a wayyyyy better version of Patric Hornqvist.

Hornqvist has 1 more goal in three more playoff games. Also double the amount of playoff ES goals.

 

[Ryder71]

He had a big old wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth the entire game. I was with clients so I had to compose myself.

That sucks, sorry you had to go through that. So uncivilized.

 

[PensandCaps]

Hornqvist has 1 more goal in three more playoff games. Also double the amount of playoff ES goals.

Your using his blues stats.

That's in the past not recent like Oshies stats on the Caps.

Last 3 playoffs

Oshie, 43 Points in 49 games

Hornqvist, 33 points in 53 games.

As of now, Oshie is waaaay better than Hornqvist.

Oshie is also better than Kessel.

 

[Gurglesons]

Your using his blues stats.

That's in the past not recent like Oshies stats on the Caps.

Last 3 playoffs

Oshie, 43 Points in 49 games

Hornqvist, 33 points in 53 games.

As of now, Oshie is waaaay better than Hornqvist.

Oshie is also better than Kessel.

Hornqvist and Kessel are both better ES players in the playoffs than Oshie.

Love Oshie, but he lives off the powerplay. 10 of his 18 goals in the last three years are off the PP.

 

[PensandCaps]

Hornqvist and Kessel are both better ES players in the playoffs than Oshie.

Love Oshie, but he lives off the powerplay. 10 of his 18 goals in the last three years are off the PP.

Who...cares?

Oshie gets the same amount of PP time as Hornqvist and Kessel...so...


Oshie has better 5v5 stats than both in the playoffs.

So hes better than Hornqvist at 5v5 AND on the PP(oshies not better than Kessel on the PP but better overall as a player at 5v5 easily)

 

[EightyOne]

Caps have Oshie. He scares me more than any other player in the playoffs.

You forget someone?

Just hope no games got to OT. Oshie or Hags will bury the Pens.

 

[Gurglesons]

Who...cares?

Oshie gets the same amount of PP time as Hornqvist and Kessel...so...


Oshie has better 5v5 stats than both in the playoffs.

So hes better than Hornqvist at 5v5 AND on the PP(oshies not better than Kessel on the PP but better overall as a player at 5v5 easily)

Hornqvist has 16 ES goals to Oshie’s 8 in the last three years..?

 

[PensandCaps]

Hornqvist has 16 ES goals to Oshie’s 8 in the last three years..?

Points are basically a tie with Oshie playing 4 less games.


Add in him being way better on the PP and its not close to who is better. Plus, he can actually create with the puck.

 

[Gurglesons]

Points are basically a tie with Oshie playing 4 less games.


Add in him being way better on the PP and its not close to who is better. Plus, he can actually create with the puck.

Not really. Caps have gotten put on a pedestal because Kuznetsov had a hell of a playoffs. Let’s see if he can repeat it. If not that team ain’t going anywhere.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Not really. Caps have gotten put on a pedestal because Kuznetsov had a hell of a playoffs. Let’s see if he can repeat it. If not that team ain’t going anywhere.

He's really the key for them.
They've always had good play from Backstrom and Ovie.
Was always about that other top C.

 

[Extra Texture]

13 years is a long ass time. How was that Ottawa series 13 years ago already **** me.

That was a hell of a time. So clearly the dawning of a bright new era that I wasn’t even mad getting dumped out by the Sens that year. I never dreamed that there would be four finals and three cup parades still to come after that. Hopefully more

 

[XanderCrews34]

I thought it didn't necessarily show on the state sheet but Rust did a really nice job creating space for Malkin and Kessel tonight. I think that line could really work for the playoffs. You have the Jake-Crosby-McCann buzz saw...and if Rust and Kessel work for Malkin that leaves Horny-Bjugs-Simon/Blueger for the third and I really like that depth especially given the ridiculous amount of chances that Bjugs/Horny combo keeps generating nightly.

And God forbid I forget to mention how big of an impact Letang has 5v5. He controls play almost as much as Crosby. It's ridiculous watching him skate the puck out of danger, create chances, and then recover to break up chances when he makes a bad decision. What an athlete.

 

[Andy99]

LMAO stat of the night...
5 x 5 shots: Pens 29, Wings 18
With JJ on the ice: Wings 9, Pens 2

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

+Finally clinched the playoffs so Saturday isn't a must-win.

+Sid busted out of his scoring slump.

+Murray. Although he did let in a goal that Josh Yohe may or may not think is an issue.

Just get one more point on Saturday so they finish in 3rd and don't have to play the Caps in Round 1.

 

[Turin]

LMAO stat of the night...
5 x 5 shots: Pens 29, Wings 18
With JJ on the ice: Wings 9, Pens 2

Yea he should be scratched when Dumo comes back..

 

[Gurglesons]

LMAO stat of the night...
5 x 5 shots: Pens 29, Wings 18
With JJ on the ice: Wings 9, Pens 2

Nah, dude he’s been great for weeks or something.

 

[canadianguy77]

Forget the injuries. Caps beat us along the walls at both ends and they clogged up the NZ in transition last season. That's how they won.

Bjugstad and Gudbranson with healthy top-end players gives us the upper hand if Sully plays his cards right.

And we would all be dumb to forget that Sidney Crosby is chasing some top-5 playoff-scoring-history right now with a decent run. He's going to be motivated.

1		Wayne Gretzky	1961	F	208	122	260	382	66	86	34	11	24	0.587	1.250	1.837
2		Mark Messier	1961	F	236	109	186	295	244	42	24	14	12	0.462	0.788	1.250
3		Jari Kurri	1960	F	200	106	127	233	123	88	25	10	14	0.530	0.635	1.165
4		Glenn Anderson	1960	F	225	93	121	214	442	67	22	1	17	0.413	0.538	0.951
5		Jaromír Jágr	1972	F	208	78	123	201	163	30	24	2	16	0.375	0.591	0.966
6		Paul Coffey	1961	D	194	59	137	196	264	57	21	6	8	0.304	0.706	1.010
7		Brett Hull	1964	F	202	103	87	190	73	13	38	4	24	0.510	0.431	0.941
8		Joe Sakic	1969	F	172	84	104	188	78	-2	27	4	19	0.488	0.605	1.093
9		Doug Gilmour	1963	F	182	60	128	188	235	27	20	2	13	0.330	0.703	1.033
10		Steve Yzerman	1965	F	196	70	115	185	84	-11	26	3	12	0.357	0.587	0.944
11		Sidney Crosby	1987	F	160	66	119	185	77	22	19	0	9	0.413	0.744	1.156
12		Bryan Trottier	1956	F	221	71	113	184	277	-19	18	4	12	0.321	0.511	0.833
13		Nicklas Lidström	1970	D	263	54	129	183	76	61	30	3	11	0.205	0.490	0.696

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[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

1) had a discussion with a fellow fan the other day wrt to phil, the gist of which was scratch him; he then got the only goal in detroit

2) dug out my phil shirt for tonight

not saying it was my doing, but it feels good all the same

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Weird stat of the day -- With the winning goal tonight, Kessel leads the entire NHL in game winning goals this season with 10.

Just kind of a strange stat given how much of a ghost Kessel has been most of this season.