Post-Game Talk: Penguins 4, Red Wings 1 - The Playoffs Edition

[WayneSid9987]

LMAO stat of the night...
5 x 5 shots: Pens 29, Wings 18
With JJ on the ice: Wings 9, Pens 2

Boil it down and you have:

8-58 or
3-58
and
28-44

Figure out who plays with #4 out of #8/#3 since 73-4 is trending the wrong way.
Thats how it SHOULD be atleast.

Might not matter if Dumo can't go to start tho...

Weird stat of the day -- With the winning goal tonight, Kessel leads the entire NHL in game winning goals this season with 10.

Just kind of a strange stat given how much of a ghost Kessel has been most of this season.

Just goes to show you he's an important part of this current roster in terms of being mediocre to a potential contender.
These PO's will be the final answer to whether he should stay here vs needing to change it up to contend again.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

Somehow Phil is still PPG this season.

 

[Freedom]

Weird stat of the day -- With the winning goal tonight, Kessel leads the entire NHL in game winning goals this season with 10.

Just kind of a strange stat given how much of a ghost Kessel has been most of this season.

I don't think that Kessel was ghost so long. He was great firt 40 games and than up and down. Ghost was final 20+ games. I think reason why people think like that is because they still see Kessel more like goalscorer than playmaker. He is much more playmaker in Pittsburgh than goalscorer ( finding passes more than shots on a net ) I think. Especially when he is on ice with Sid and/or Geno.

 

[Sideline]

Phil Kessel has been a point a game player for the last 3 years and played all 82 in each of them. He makes 6.8MM against the cap.

Of course HF wants to trade him for picks...

 

[EightyOne]

Phil Kessel has been a point a game player for the last 3 years and played all 82 in each of them. He makes 6.8MM against the cap.

Of course HF wants to trade him for picks...

You just don't get it. We don't wanna trade him for for picks, man....


...it is for a bag of pucks!

Geez!

 

[Icarium]

Thanks for the birthday present, Pens! Much appreciated.

Kessel, you sexy beast! I am so happy I was wrong about you. The return of the wicked wrister, indeed. Now, please keep it up and score even strength goals regularly against teams other than the Wings.

I have no idea how we didn't concede in the first ten or so minutes of the second period, we had so many turnovers and weak attempts to clear, Murray was great but the Wings missed the net so many times too.

I am happy that Crosby got closer to 100 but boy, he can be frustrating with his refusal to shoot from great positions lately.

 

[Shwag33]

13 years is a long ass time. How was that Ottawa series 13 years ago already **** me.

I drove 12 hours to game 5 of that series to not see them score a goal, then drove straight back because I had a final the next afternoon. Not the smartest thing I ever did.

 

[Bnat66]

Congrats to the Pens. It wasn't that long ago watching this team was a dark dark dark endeavor. 13 straight seasons shows how spoiled we've become with some of the best talent in the NHL and 2 generational players. I will never get tired of rooting for them in the post season. Kudos all around. +++++++ galore tonight for getting in

Are you talking about when the whole team was practically traded away?

 

[WayneSid9987]

Just to bring some levity to the Phil thing.
It's how his +/- is trending more so than production.
Or the bad mix that Geno-Phil have been.
With Bjugs now theres a chance he'll work things out with a better/healthier Geno or Bjugs but that +/- can't be what it is for him and G for this team to contend.

 

[golfortennis]

Forget the injuries. Caps beat us along the walls at both ends and they clogged up the NZ in transition last season. That's how they won.

Bjugstad and Gudbranson with healthy top-end players gives us the upper hand if Sully plays his cards right.

And we would all be dumb to forget that Sidney Crosby is chasing some top-5 playoff-scoring-history right now with a decent run. He's going to be motivated.

1		Wayne Gretzky	1961	F	208	122	260	382	66	86	34	11	24	0.587	1.250	1.837
2		Mark Messier	1961	F	236	109	186	295	244	42	24	14	12	0.462	0.788	1.250
3		Jari Kurri	1960	F	200	106	127	233	123	88	25	10	14	0.530	0.635	1.165
4		Glenn Anderson	1960	F	225	93	121	214	442	67	22	1	17	0.413	0.538	0.951
5		Jaromír Jágr	1972	F	208	78	123	201	163	30	24	2	16	0.375	0.591	0.966
6		Paul Coffey	1961	D	194	59	137	196	264	57	21	6	8	0.304	0.706	1.010
7		Brett Hull	1964	F	202	103	87	190	73	13	38	4	24	0.510	0.431	0.941
8		Joe Sakic	1969	F	172	84	104	188	78	-2	27	4	19	0.488	0.605	1.093
9		Doug Gilmour	1963	F	182	60	128	188	235	27	20	2	13	0.330	0.703	1.033
10		Steve Yzerman	1965	F	196	70	115	185	84	-11	26	3	12	0.357	0.587	0.944
11		Sidney Crosby	1987	F	160	66	119	185	77	22	19	0	9	0.413	0.744	1.156
12		Bryan Trottier	1956	F	221	71	113	184	277	-19	18	4	12	0.321	0.511	0.833
13		Nicklas Lidström	1970	D	263	54	129	183	76	61	30	3	11	0.205	0.490	0.696

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This is my thing now with Crosby. He has a chance to really put himself in some rarified air that won't be able to be "dismissed" years from now, like some of his regular season numbers will likely be, not taking into account his injuries.

Making the playoffs gives him the chance. 5 guys with 200 playoff points. I know not everybody in history got to play as many games, but still. That is some seriously impressive work.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

That said...Price could easily steal a series against either...

No, he couldn’t. Tampa would light Price up like a Christmas tree.

 

[Shockmaster]

No, he couldn’t. Tampa would light Price up like a Christmas tree.

Imagine what they'll do to Bob in Round 1.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

Imagine what they'll do to Bob in Round 1.

Oh lord. Playoff Bob might give up 12 a night.

 

[heysmilinstrange]

Normally I think the comments on here about Josh Yohe's criticism of Murray are a little over the top, but in his article on last night's game, he talked briefly about the adversity the Penguins have had to overcome and Murray was the only player he called out for poor play during the season. That's, um, f***ing ridiculous.

 

[EightyOne]

Normally I think the comments on here about Josh Yohe's criticism of Murray are a little over the top, but in his article on last night's game, he talked briefly about the adversity the Penguins have had to overcome and Murray was the only player he called out for poor play during the season. That's, um, ****ing ridiculous.

There's 18 skaters. They can all score if their buddy doesn't.

Who stops goals if the goalie doesn't?

It isn't a fair position. It will never be judged fair.

 

[heysmilinstrange]

There's 18 skaters. They can all score if their buddy doesn't.

Who stops goals if the goalie doesn't?

It isn't a fair position. It will never be judged fair.

That's fine for a casual fan, but I expect a sports journalist to cover the team more objectively than that.

 

[EightyOne]

That's fine for a casual fan, but I expect a sports journalist to cover the team more objectively than that.

Oh. There's the problem. It'd be like believing Millbury on what a good hockey hit/play is or a trade rumor from Kypreos.


As long as the Pens...all of them...keep doing their best they can be the best.

 

[Andy99]

Normally I think the comments on here about Josh Yohe's criticism of Murray are a little over the top, but in his article on last night's game, he talked briefly about the adversity the Penguins have had to overcome and Murray was the only player he called out for poor play during the season. That's, um, ****ing ridiculous.

Right or wrong, goalie is the most impactful and scrutinized position next to starting QB..he was bad earlier in the year but he's been great lately and frankly, our D has been trending down the last couple weeks and he's been saving our bacon...we wouldn't have won last night if not for him because we gave up a lot of quality chances to DET...

 

[Turin]

I think the systemic analysis of last season vs Washington is overdone. Kessel, Malkin, Dumoulin and Hagelin were all hurt and Murray was bad all year. I still maintain that it was the worst Caps team in the 3 years.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Normally I think the comments on here about Josh Yohe's criticism of Murray are a little over the top, but in his article on last night's game, he talked briefly about the adversity the Penguins have had to overcome and Murray was the only player he called out for poor play during the season. That's, um, ****ing ridiculous.

To be fair, Murray didn't score a single goal all season.

I think the systemic analysis of last season vs Washington is overdone. Kessel, Malkin, Dumoulin and Hagelin were all hurt and Murray was bad all year. I still maintain that it was the worst Caps team in the 3 years.

There was also Letang doing whatever it was he was doing. But the entire series still could have gone differently if Malkin hadn't slewfooted a guy onto his own leg.

The Caps shouldn't be a problem for us if we're healthy. With Geno, Letang, and Dumo's situations, that's TBD.

 

[ownal]

LMAO stat of the night...
5 x 5 shots: Pens 29, Wings 18
With JJ on the ice: Wings 9, Pens 2

Does the coaching staff see these stats? How do you not sit JJ if Dumo comes back?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Yeah, JJ and Gudbranson are picking an awful time to come back down to Earth. Schultz is also picking an awful time to do whatever it is that he's been doing for a while.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I think the systemic analysis of last season vs Washington is overdone. Kessel, Malkin, Dumoulin and Hagelin were all hurt and Murray was bad all year. I still maintain that it was the worst Caps team in the 3 years.

The competitive advantage for the Caps last year was their bottom six, especially their 4th line. They were wrecking balls, playing in the offensive zone most of the time, and contributing on the scoresheet. This year, at least in the regular season, they don't have the same advantage with the bottom six. We're back to the top 6 heavy + excellent PP Caps again. Kuznetsov played awesome for them last year. The guy I'm mostly concerned about when we play them is Vrana. His speed f***ing kills us. Also, Wilson if he injures half the team and doesn't have shit called on him.

It's a toss up matchup. It's really going to come down to whoever's goaltender plays better IMO. The Caps don't scare me.

 

[ChaosAgent]

To be fair, Murray didn't score a single goal all season.



There was also Letang doing whatever it was he was doing. But the entire series still could have gone differently if Malkin hadn't slewfooted a guy onto his own leg.

The Caps shouldn't be a problem for us if we're healthy. With Geno, Letang, and Dumo's situations, that's TBD.

If dominant Kuznetsov shows up, they'll be a problem. But from what I've heard he's been spotty this year.

What I will say is I'm extremely confident in Murray v. Holtby as the goalie matchup.

 

[Gurglesons]

The competitive advantage for the Caps last year was their bottom six, especially their 4th line. They were wrecking balls, playing in the offensive zone most of the time, and contributing on the scoresheet. This year, at least in the regular season, they don't have the same advantage with the bottom six. We're back to the top 6 heavy + excellent PP Caps again. Kuznetsov played awesome for them last year. The guy I'm mostly concerned about when we play them is Vrana. His speed ****ing kills us. Also, Wilson if he injures half the team and doesn't have **** called on him.

It's a toss up matchup. It's really going to come down to whoever's goaltender plays better IMO. The Caps don't scare me.

Their competitive advantage was losing Wilson, having an actual Kuznetsov and the fact our team visually was not hungry and broken down after playing two cup runs.

Healthy Brassard or Malkin and we likely win that series. As we almost did.