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I had an online translator transcribe the relevant part. It's not perfect (I took a few minutes to try to clean it up a bit, mostly names) but it's fairly accurate. Pat Boyle in red and Charlie Roumeliotis in blue.
Here's the transcript:
Um, so here I want to move on to another topic this week there was news about a new Chicago pro hockey league that I think starting in July, right. And it's going to be a MB ice arena here in Chicago. Six blackhawks will be on it and I'll just quickly run through the names. Jokiharju will be there, which would be great. Oesterle, Alex DeBrincat, Brandon Saad will be there. Vinnie Hinostroza, Nick Schmaltz and oh by the way, 88. Patrick Kane will be there. No, Jonathan Toews. I'll start first on this. I think the optics look bad. Charlie. I do. I, I think if you're Jonathan Toews okay. And your production has been in a decline for the last three seasons and there's been questions about your off season training regimen, you know, whether it's the Diet, whether it's you're doing more, um, you know, quick twitch things and, and, and muscle related things. Less on ice training, less shooting the optics to me. Don't look good if you didn't go to the world championships and you're not on the ice for this. And the former MVP who went and led team USA, he continues to do this stuff like I get deciding maybe not to play in the world, but to me when you have this long of an off season, when there's this many question marks, like he's not coming off a 42 goals season, you know, he's coming up and you went out and got a player and Brandon Saad to help elevate him. And part of that goes on, Brandon, I'm not saying that's all on, but ,,, Yeah, I mean they, they, they made significant moves ,,, to use the word, uh, to help his play. You need to, you're making $10,000,000 a year, Charlie, go out and show me you're worthy of that because right now, I mean, there's times when we look at the Nhl points, scoring leaders mid season and he's like 90th.
Yeah.
I mean, am I like, I'm not making that up.
No.
And there's no way you can be a top 10 paid player and be 100th in scoring. It just doesn't work that way. So to me, optics look bad. I really, I don't like seeing this. I think Toews should be at this and I'd like to, to hear a reason why.
Yeah. And another revealing a part of the Rocky Wirtz interview was kind of towards the bottom of the story. You know, the reporter asks whether Rocky regretted giving Toews and Kane that money and, and Rocky said no because at the time it was worth it. And then he followed that up by saying, but now they got to go earn it. And I don't think that's a shot at Patrick Kane. And I don't think that's a shot at Duncan Keith either because you know, Duncan keeps making five and a half million dollars in and Patrick Kane is ... no.
That's a shot at 19.
And you know, whether you like it or not, the only, the only. I don't want to make a huge deal out of this because I, I just found this out today that it's actually, it's a, it's July, it's like eight weeks. So I think it's like, but I don't know if Patrick Kane...
Yeah but can you duck in and duck out. That's my question.
You know, I'm sure you can put yourself on a team and you know, maybe appear in, in a week or whatever. But yeah, I mean it's, it's hard because you, you get all these like DeBrincat, Saad, Kane and even Jhokijaru They're all going. It would be cool if Jonathan Toews could make an appearance and I know it might be difficult travel wise because he spends his, you know, his off season up in Winnipeg and travel might be a factor. But like if you can get out for a week, just make your presence known because the thing that's like, it's hard with Toews is like Patrick Kane, like on a morning skate or practice. Always one of the first ones out. He's always the last one off. You know, and Jonathan is one of the first guys off the ice and I get it because some, some players are completely different where they need to get their mind away from the game and and but when, when you're like you need to be, your presence needs to be felt among the. Even if it's not play related, like you need to be part of the guys.
Exactly.
Patrick Kane is always out there with Alex DeBrincat and Nick Schmaltz and all those young guys, he's integrated in that. It's always the veterans that are off the and I get it. Seabrook, Keith, those guys quite a lot of hockey, but like you guys need to be. They need to be a team. They need to be integrated into these young guys. Nick, it can't be the young guys and the veterans. It needs to be at the Blackhawks and that's uh ...
Kane. Said that to me last July when he was helping out with Jeremy Roenik's hockey camp out at seven bridges. Went out there and I interviewed them. Yep. I have a podcast and he said to me, it needs to be. It can't be the young guys and the old guys, we need to come together as a team and that's something that like he took on his shoulders that he needs and to me that meant golfing with Vinny and Schmaltz and at the time, um, he was also playing with a Hartman, you know, before he was obviously trying to, um, and I, I wasn't going to go down this road, but because we're here I'll say it, I feel cain is displaying more leadership roles right now. More captain like roles that Jonathan Toews. And I thought I'd never would say that, but I, I really feel that that's the case. I think he has tried to bridge, like he basically said enough of the, you know, we can't just talk about core guys young, you know, like, and now the is dwindled obviously, but he's taken it upon himself to connect to these guys, spend time with them to, you know, go to the worlds. If I have to take part here, he does a lot, you know, they golf, they do a. and I'm not asking John to host parties at his, at his condo. I'm just saying you need to do something and be part of the guy because it doesn't feel, it feels like he's on an island right now. And I know we always joke captain serious, but like, you know, there needs to be some camaraderie there. There needs to be, you know, these guys are in awe, when they walk in that room, you need to lighten the mood up a little bit and develop chemistry and it's not all about you and your stats.
So I don't know where you feel on that. I, you know, this wasn't something we were gonna discuss, but how much do you feel is that because listen, we just, like Jonathan knows all the outside criticism, uh, ever since the blackhawks won the Stanley Cup, he's kind of been on this because it used to be, there was a time, there was a point in time where it was Toews and Crosby, like there was a debate who is better now? It's like not even close. And, and Jonathan Toews I believed he got nominated to the all star game. Not this past season, but the previous year. And I remember like, we all ended up that because yeah, it was because the top 100 was going to be announced, right. And he was going to be part of that and you know, but yeah, he, he know, like kind of like a little bit embarassed.
Yeah. Yeah. No he did. He. Absolutely. And so how much do you think him not, I don't want to say like he's not acting like a leader, but it's hard to like make your presence known in the Locker Room when you're not producing. How do you know?
And that's, that's a great point. And I think that's a, like, I think nobody's harder on John that John. I mean, I, I think and, and you can see it on him when you're around.
He wants it too hard.
Yeah. But he's also um, you know, this is the situation that this is where we're at. So then you need to change up what you're doing. And if the team wants you to go this route in off season training, then you maybe have to consider it because whatever you're doing, it's not working on the ice, you know. And I think you owe it to the, to the team and the fan base to pardon the phrase of what, what Rocky said. Go earn it. Like if you don't make the playoffs and there's a summer league and your backyard to me, you need to have a really good reason why you're not or take part in it to some degree.
Yeah. I'll be curious to see if he goes to the convention because I don't think you went last year. Correct? Or maybe it was the previous year.
I think John did go like they blend together. To be honest...
There was a year that he didn't. He didn't Right? I think and. But I think that was just prior commitment.
Again. He, he like, I will look when they're winning cups. I understand that. And that's. And that that's something they have had, you know, they've had issues, some of the guys on that team. Because the season is so short, you win the cup, it's late June, you're really not starting your off season until July one and then three weeks later it's a convention. So those years, hey, you know what those are, we like to call champagne problems. I don't mind that if that's what, you know, the discussion we have to have like are you going to come and cut your, your trip to Europe shore to the convention because we won another cup. Those are champagne problems. We haven't had that issue the last three years to one and dones and not qualifying for the playoffs. You've had more than an ample amount of time to see the globe.
Yeah.
You know, so go check the box and go, you know, go to the convention. And again because that look, you don't get just paid the 10 point 5 million per and last year you got paid a lot more. You don't get paid that just for the 82. I mean it, it's, it's a job and you have a long off season come in and hang for two nights and shake hands and kiss babies and take pictures. I mean that, that's part of the deal and if you don't like it, you know.
Yeah.
And, and I know a lot of people said this year might be a bounce back here for Jonathan Toews, but I, I really do think he will bounce back next year because like all the underlying numbers where they're just for whatever it same with Brandon Saad and so we could come back to this podcast and you know, the first couple months of next season and he bounces back and it's not a problem because whatever he was doing it was fine, but he is, it's really going to open himself up to criticism if next year, if the numbers again don't match up to what the underlying, underlying numbers are saying.
