Parise Scratched

[KingsHockey24]

I always wanted 2008-09 Zach Parise on the Kings to play alongside Kopi.

Not so much anymore.

 

[GuerinUp]

Maybe it wouldn't hurt for you to hit up high school again. Or middle school for that matter.

Describing his condition as a "rash" is like describing cancer as "going bald". But obviously you don't care about any of the details because you're here to proudly get off on being an idiot

are you seriously trying to compare what was labeled either eczema or a skin allergy to a career ending injury or cancer? wow....

 

[Kuznetsnow]

are you seriously trying to compare what was labeled either eczema or a skin allergy to a career ending injury or cancer? wow....

Do you understand what the consequences of his eczema and further playing with it were?

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Dean is sending a message to both Parise and the team. If a young player pulled the same crap Parise pulled last game, he would be sent back to the minors. Parise should not get a pass.

Accountability matters.

What happened?

 

[ThatGuy22]

 

[57special]

didnt take a change after a dump in the other end after a long shift, instead persued the puck to try to get ENG. puck was brought back into wild zone. vegas tied game late in the 3rd, wild lose in overtime. basically the epitomy of selfish

and to make it even worse, VGK briefly lost possession of the puck in the O zone, with Parise the closest Wild player. He was so tired he couldn't get to the puck, where any player replacing him would've had a very good chance to get it, or at least contest for it. Moments after, VGK tied it up.

 

[57special]

He should've admitted his fault, then shut up, and taken his medicine. Shame on you, Parise. You are not bigger than the team.

 

[GuerinUp]

"breathe wild fans breathe"

we will breathe when hes off the team jessi....

 

[surixon]

Do you understand what the consequences of his eczema and further playing with it were?

So he was quite OK with the consequences until such a time he conveniently got to the last few low paying years of his deal?

No doubt he has that condition but if he was fine playing with it while making 4 million then he should be deemed fit to play with it while making 1 million. Imo no way should the Hawks been allowed to LTIR that cap hit.

 

[Chrisinroch]

Incoming price for parise trade e5

Wild say “No thanks”.

 

[ThatGuy22]

He should've admitted his fault, then shut up, and taken his medicine. Shame on you, Parise. You are not bigger than the team.

He is taking his medicine. His answer to a different question was it's my job to have a good practice to play and be ready for Arizona.

How dare he explain his thought process...

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Wild say “No thanks”.

You mean, "no, Tom Hanks, we want Price...."
Please ?

 

[Kuznetsnow]

So he was quite OK with the consequences until such a time he conveniently got to the last few low paying years of his deal?

No doubt he has that condition but if he was fine playing with it while making 4 million then he should be deemed fit to play with it while making 1 million. Imo no way should the Hawks been allowed to LTIR that cap hit.

You may be surprised at this but a number of players in the NHL are currently playing through career ending injuries. Malkin (shoulder) and Chara (knee) being the most notorious examples. Also many players conditions get worse as they get older, try to play through them, take dangerous drugs to suppress them etc.

Ltir is very cut and dry about what qualifies because there is insurance and the league involved. You can't bs your way onto it without medical documentation. That's why Byfuglien didn't get LTIRd and lost a year of contract money. When someone goes on ltir someone else loses millions of dollars. However ltir is set up so that players aren't forced to play if doing so can make them invalids down the road (at which point no one on this forum cares about them, they're discarded toys after all)

Ryan Kesler tried to play long after he should have quit and now he has Crohns disease and is basically crippled for life. Hossa would have had (and does have afaik) similar problems. It will be interesting to see how guys like Parise and Bergeron who played through a lot of damage hold up in their 40s (once no one cares about them anymore like no one cares about Franzen or Zetterberg)

 

[Chrisinroch]

You mean, "no, Tom Hanks, we want Price...."
Please ?

Carey Price is not even a replacement level goalie anymore.
....And he’s a $10.5MM cap hit every year until 2026!

What a horrible idea

 

[um]

Dean is sending a message to both Parise and the team. If a young player pulled the same crap Parise pulled last game, he would be sent back to the minors. Parise should not get a pass.

Accountability matters.

What did he do?

 

[surixon]

You may be surprised at this but a number of players in the NHL are currently playing through career ending injuries. Malkin (shoulder) and Chara (knee) being the most notorious examples. Also many players conditions get worse as they get older, try to play through them, take dangerous drugs to suppress them etc.

Ltir is very cut and dry about what qualifies because there is insurance and the league involved. You can't bs your way onto it without medical documentation. That's why Byfuglien didn't get LTIRd and lost a year of contract money. When someone goes on ltir someone else loses millions of dollars. However ltir is set up so that players aren't forced to play if doing so can make them invalids down the road (at which point no one on this forum cares about them, they're discarded toys after all)

Ryan Kesler tried to play long after he should have quit and now he has Crohns disease and is basically crippled for life. Hossa would have had (and does have afaik) similar problems

This seems to be a case where Hossa didn't want to to play and him retiring would have seen the Hawks hit with a recapture penalty.

Simply put imo he didn't want to play with his condition as the money wasn't worth it to him to do so any longer. It's not that he couldn't have played with it.

Anyhow I think they need to revamp that aspect of the CBA.

 

[BagHead]

Understandable what he was trying to do, to get Foligno that hat trick, but you don't make that promise. If Foligno is nearby and you get the puck, sure give him the hat trick. If he's not, you put it in yourself. And you never, ever put yourself in a bad position in order to make it happen, because the cost can be quite high, as he just found out.

 

[GuerinUp]

You may be surprised at this but a number of players in the NHL are currently playing through career ending injuries. Malkin (shoulder) and Chara (knee) being the most notorious examples. Also many players conditions get worse as they get older, try to play through them, take dangerous drugs to suppress them etc.

Ltir is very cut and dry about what qualifies because there is insurance and the league involved. You can't bs your way onto it without medical documentation. That's why Byfuglien didn't get LTIRd and lost a year of contract money. When someone goes on ltir someone else loses millions of dollars. However ltir is set up so that players aren't forced to play if doing so can make them invalids down the road (at which point no one on this forum cares about them, they're discarded toys after all)

Ryan Kesler tried to play long after he should have quit and now he has Crohns disease and is basically crippled for life. Hossa would have had (and does have afaik) similar problems. It will be interesting to see how guys like Parise and Bergeron who played through a lot of damage hold up in their 40s (once no one cares about them anymore like no one cares about Franzen or Zetterberg)

Ya its so hard to get prescribed adderall or medicinal marijuana these days....

wake up dude...

doctors bs all the time

 

[TonySoprano]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Dany can we win? Watching him disappear like Furio is LOL funny

 

[Kuznetsnow]

This seems to be a case where Hossa didn't want to to play and him retiring would have seen the Hawks hit with a recapture penalty.

Simply put imo he didn't want to play with his condition as the money wasn't worth it to him to do so any longer. It's not that he couldn't have played with it.

Anyhow I think they need to revamp that aspect of the CBA.

He didn't want to play with his condition because it was getting to the point where it would severely mess with his quality of life then and down the road.

Most players "can play through" anything short of being dead, that doesn't mean anything. Some of them try to play through concussions and end up dead from CTE a few years later, but hey they "played through it". Pretty much everyone in the NHL plays through more than a healthy person should, but that's widely accepted as the norm and part of being in the show. However Hossa's condition went way beyond that.

Seems this whole discussion boils down to people here being like lol cheeky cap recapture XD and not realizing that the amount of medication Hossa had to take to keep skin on his body was gonna mess him up for life.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Hopefully we can find a way to LTIR him

 

[ninetyeight]

He always seemed like the biggest "Good not great" player in the league.

He is 36.. If your definition of (just) a good player is someone who hits 90pts, then I guess there ain’t many good players in the NHL.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Ya its so hard to get prescribed adderall or medicinal marijuana these days....

wake up dude...

doctors bs all the time

Me - why would a big corporate insurance company have their doctors BS them into paying out millions of dollars.

You - lol XD the world isn't sunshine and rainbows noob.

I give up. If you ever decide to read about Hossa's situation I'm sure you will. Might encounter some big words there but I'm sure you'll be up to the task.

 

[DrewGl]

He is 36.. If your definition of (just) a good player is someone who hits 90pts, then I guess there ain’t many good players in the NHL.

That was a decade ago.

 

[IceNeophyte]

That was a decade ago.

"He always seemed like the greatest 'good not great' player in the league."