JT Kreider
FIRE GORDIE CLARK
Kreider's blood clot issue causing him to miss about 25 games is a huge red flag.
Kreider came back better than ever from his blood clot. Not a big worry right now.
Kreider's blood clot issue causing him to miss about 25 games is a huge red flag.
Makes sense to me. I mean, he's awesome, but I can't see him boosting a rebuild per se.Kreider is absolutely not a non starter for Panarin. There are very few pieces in the organization off the table for Panarin. Maybe none.
But... as ****ing incredible Panarin is and he'd be the most dynamic offensive talent since 05-06 Jagr, we have no business making this type of trade right now.
Kreider came back better than ever from his blood clot. Not a big worry right now.
Kreider is absolutely not a non starter for Panarin. There are very few pieces in the organization off the table for Panarin. Maybe none.
But... as ****ing incredible Panarin is and he'd be the most dynamic offensive talent since 05-06 Jagr, we have no business making this type of trade right now.
Agreed. It comes down to simple asset management, IMO. I'm sure we have the pieces to get him, but at what point does the cost to acquire him outweigh the benefits? We don't have a deep prospect pool just yet, nor do we have a deep NHL-level roster. If you sacrifice that depth to acquire a player like Panarin, it's almost a step backwards for the rebuild.
This is a somewhat hard yes from a Rangers POV. Losing Kreider and Hayes is tough but Panarin is a beast, him and Chytil would be great togetherKreider & Hayes for Panarin?
Because he isn't even willing to talk contract with a team he's suited up with. What makes you think he's just going to sign on the line here? And before you run all the reasons why NY is the end destination for every UFA we ever want here, explain to me which if those reasons would not apply when he hits the UFA status he clearly is interested in pursuing. Then explain why we shouldn't keep all our assets, not waste any years of his career being non competetive and just approach him when this team is in a position to do something other than just be the Artemi Panarin show every night with little success and have him walk away in frustration when the opportunity exists?I agree, and the Rangers have an excess amount of picks, spare parts (which will likely become more picks or prospects in the coming week, and capspace, whereas they only have so much room on the 50 man roster. A deal like this clears up some space for more contracts (for picks/prospects) and gives us an elite talent to build around. Panarin is 26 years old, he's gonna be around for a long time so why is acquiring him now a bad idea?
Any trade for Panarin for me starts with including the Rangers 9th overall pick.
I’m willing to put Panarin and the 18th in a package but I’d want #9 included in a package back. I also tie conditions to him resigning (which I think he would in a heartbeat).
Rangers are likely to say get lost which if they are indeed full rebuild then I would too.
Because he isn't even willing to talk contract with a team he's suited up with. What makes you think he's just going to sign on the line here? And before you run all the reasons why NY is the end destination for every UFA we ever want here, explain to me which if those reasons would not apply when he hits the UFA status he clearly is interested in pursuing. Then explain why we shouldn't keep all our assets, not waste any years of his career being non competetive and just approach him when this team is in a position to do something other than just be the Artemi Panarin show every night with little success and have him walk away in frustration when the opportunity exists?
Regardless of value, making the 9th overall the main piece of a Panarin trade is a big step back for a team that has been making strides towards being a contender.
I agree, and the Rangers have an excess amount of picks, spare parts (which will likely become more picks or prospects in the coming week, and capspace, whereas they only have so much room on the 50 man roster. A deal like this clears up some space for more contracts (for picks/prospects) and gives us an elite talent to build around. Panarin is 26 years old, he's gonna be around for a long time so why is acquiring him now a bad idea?
no, way too much and the wrong currencyKreider & Hayes for Panarin?
The price for Panarin is most likely something along the lines of Kreider, Skjei and the 9OV.
That’s a price I’m not willing to even consider.
It's not the point if value. It's the point of us not being a whole lot closer to success with Panarin than we are with Kreider. This isn't the NBA. One guy can't put you on his back and get you there. This team is not one player away, it's many players away. It's not a question of an even swap, so no, I don't think we should go into the wallet and add when the end result in not going to change.there are Rangers fans who wouldn't trade Kreider in a deal for Panarin?
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there are Rangers fans who wouldn't trade Kreider in a deal for Panarin?
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