Panarin to meet with Avs

[Raucherhusten]

But Tavares had no impact on their own core. Their cap problems are 100% tied to overpaying supporting pieces, not for paying their core what they're worth. Blaming Tavares for Toronto's cap problems is as silly as blaming McDavid & Drae for Edmonton's.

And obviously because I pretended to be a good boy long enough to sucker someone with power, as per uje

Pretty sure we had a similar discussion before. We will never see eye-to-eye when it comes to salaries and who deserves which contract.

My point is: You better take a good look at your own talent and what it might cost 2-3 years down the road before you bring in a star player like Tavares/Panarin and their salaries or it might come back and bite you in the ass.

 

[S3rkie]

Yeah I'm gonna on put more faith in Portzline on this one. If the Avs even have a phone call with the Avs it's gonna be negotiation fodder for wherever he actually signs.

 

[The Pwnerer]

Must not get any hopes up...reminds me when our named popped up with Tavares last year. We were never in it, just merely a distraction.

 

[Alex Jones]

I totally believe he will meet with the Avs. Hell it wouldn't surprise me if he meets with a bunch of teams. Why not?? How can it hurt your numbers as a fa?? Drive your price up

 

[cgf]

Pretty sure we had a similar discussion before. We will never see eye-to-eye when it comes to salaries and who deserves which contract.

My point is: You better take a good look at your own talent and what it might cost 2-3 years down the road before you bring in a star player like Tavares/Panarin and their salaries or it might come back and bite you in the ass.

That's very possible, as it does often irk me when people try to blame stars for cap problems created by FOs overpaying depth players.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I don't believe it for a second. This is Dater trying to get hits and Subs for his new site, nothing more.


I'd be shocked if the Avs meet with Panarin.

It would be a pretty big thing to be wrong about. All another reporter has to do is ask how the meeting went, the next time they have an avail and Dater would lose a ton more credibility if sakic says they never met.

Trade rumours are another thing, because GM’s want to deny reports, so they don’t offend the player.

 

[Raucherhusten]

That's very possible, as it does often irk me when people try to blame stars for cap problems created by FOs overpaying depth players.

And it always irks me when ppl don't get that hockey is still a team sport, teams have to pay at least 20 players and the NHL has a (more or less) hard cap. And then i see Toronto and it feels like that EVERY DAMN PLAYER is trying to squeeze every last penny out of the organisation very well knowing that this will effect the depth of the team and their chances to actually win something. But hey, they got a million more so screw the team.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I’m sure he’ll meet with the Avs. I bet they’ll be somewhere from 3-6 on his list of preferred destinations by the time it’s said and done. Doubt they sign him.

 

[cgf]

And it always irks me when ppl don't get that hockey is still a team sport, teams have to pay at least 20 players and the NHL has a (more or less) hard cap. And then i see Toronto and it feels like that EVERY DAMN PLAYER is trying to squeeze every last penny out of the organisation very well knowing that this will effect the depth of the team and their chances to actually win something. But hey, they got a million more so screw the team.

It's a team sport...where no team has won the cup without stars

And then you remember the miniscule earning window that these guys have compared to most other professions, and it becomes truly shocking just how much more often they give their employers discounts than do the fans that gripe about the greed of professional athletes...especially when we remember that these guys are risking their brains for our amusement.

But hey, who cares whether these guys can remember their children's names when they stop entertaining us?

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Yeah I'm gonna on put more faith in Portzline on this one. If the Avs even have a phone call with the Avs it's gonna be negotiation fodder for wherever he actually signs.

In terms of the actual tweets. Dater is reporting a fact about the Avs setting up a meeting with a player, while Portzline is reporting speculation and his opinion that he doesn’t think he will sign with Colorado.

Which is probably true, but here’s hoping he’s wrong haha

 

[Raucherhusten]

It's a team sport...where no team has won the cup without stars

And then you remember the miniscule earning window that these guys have compared to most other professions, and it becomes truly shocking just how much more often they give their employers discounts than do the fans that gripe about the greed of professional athletes...especially when we remember that these guys are risking their brains for our amusement.

But hey, who cares whether these guys can remember their children's names when they stop entertaining us?

Npbody is forcing those guys to play hockey. And they usually get paid very well "to entertain" us. And no, they are not stuntmen who actually risk their lives when they entertain us, they just play hockey.

Again, we are not seeing eye-to-eye - so i stop now. In both threads.

 

[cgf]

Npbody is forcing those guys to play hockey. And they usually get paid very well "to entertain" us. And no, they are not stuntmen who actually risk their lives when they entertain us, they just play hockey.

Again, we are not seeing eye-to-eye - so i stop now. In both threads.

They get paid well because their skills are valuable & their profession is dangerous. ECHLers are professional entertainers too, but they make less than the median accountant because their skills don't warrant NHL salaries.

Instead of just backing out of the discussion can you make an argument that is more than a naked appeal to jealousy?

 

[AllAboutAvs]

And it always irks me when ppl don't get that hockey is still a team sport, teams have to pay at least 20 players and the NHL has a (more or less) hard cap. And then i see Toronto and it feels like that EVERY DAMN PLAYER is trying to squeeze every last penny out of the organisation very well knowing that this will effect the depth of the team and their chances to actually win something. But hey, they got a million more so screw the team.

I fall somewhere in the middle in this argument. I'm all for "pay the player what he is worth" but if you try to get every cents you can get out of me then don't come to me later on if I have major problems putting together a SC contender. If your prerogative is money then fine it is your right. There is nothing wrong to wanting to be paid what you deserve but you also must realize that it might affect your chance to win a SC as well.

And let's not forget that the smaller guys also deserve to be paid what they are worth. I know that if I would be a bottom-6 player I would not be very happy with guys like Tavares, Matthews, Nylander and especially Marner. They would not only be taking money away from me but they also would be taking away a shot at the SC away from me as well.

We all have different values. As a top player my priority would be winning the SC and I would try to do my part towards that but let me tell you that in the process I would be keeping the team accountable when handing out stupid contracts like Zaitsev's. The little money I would leave on the table to help building a "winner" better be use smartly.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

At least a top UFA sounds like they will take a call from Sakic. Unlike last year.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Dater also told us that Barrie to Vancouver was as good as done.

Take anything he says as nonsense until a legit insider or Bobby Mac backs his claim.

 

[Foxtail]

Pretty sure we had a similar discussion before. We will never see eye-to-eye when it comes to salaries and who deserves which contract.

My point is: You better take a good look at your own talent and what it might cost 2-3 years down the road before you bring in a star player like Tavares/Panarin and their salaries or it might come back and bite you in the ass.

Signing Tavares was a dumb move by Dumbas. Overpaid and forced the over pay of Matthews and Nylsnder and now Marner

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Signing Tavares was a dumb move by Dumbas. Overpaid and forced the over pay of Matthews and Nylsnder and now Marner

Disagree there. Tavares is still the best player on that team. Zaitsev and Marleau were the mistake signings.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Panarin’s starting with the Panthers to see what they’ll pay him, then go around FA circuit to drive his price up, then eventually go back to Panthers and get close to his highest offer before signing with them.

The sooner we realize and accept that’s reality, the better off we’ll be. I want to move on the other big 4 (Pavs, Zucc, Lee and Nyquist), and hopefully we can get 2 of those guys at a decent price while others are still getting dicked around by Panarin.

 

[S3rkie]

Has anyone outside of Dater and AJ even mentioned them in the same breath? People are setting themselves up to be let down.

 

[chet1926]

I know this is a pipe dream. We don't get nice things here in Colorado anymore, unless they get drafted or traded here and are forced to be here.

I don't understand why it's so hard for the Avs to get the attention of big names these days. I mean they have one of the best selling points in the league. All they need to say is we can match pretty much any offer plus you can play with MacK for the next 7 years and look really good doing it.

Anyways go enjoy Florida where you'll never win and you only have like 10 fans show up every night.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Can't imagine the "meeting" will last long after Sakic offers him $4M - $5M less aav than Florida does.

 

[Barklez]

Lol Dater reporting “Avs to meet with Panarin, literally any time during the FA negotiating window (who knows when?! Click here to not find out!)”.

Other fanbases treating it like it was anything more than a complete stab in the dark and then laughing about it when it’s a complete stab in the dark.



Dater making us all look like idiots by association.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Stone got $9.5M a few months ago. What does Panarin want? I think Stone is better, but I can see why some prefer Panarin.

 

[AvsWraith]

One game away from the western finals... and this guy could be the spark we need to jump start a second line.

I know it's not going to happen, but please make it happen.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Stone got $9.5M a few months ago. What does Panarin want? I think Stone is better, but I can see why some prefer Panarin.

I’m willing to bet he’s gonna get minimum 11m