Dada
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- May 12, 2012
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Bergevin is starting to really pissing me off.
Would you care to elaborate?
Bergevin is starting to really pissing me off.
If nothing more substantial than that tweet from someone who seems a lot like a nobody comes out, we can't keep the thread title as it is. It's possible that it is just straight up false.
Bergevin has been really tight lipped about everything so far. I doubt we would be hearing any leaks.
If it doesn't come from the only real insider in hockey (MacKenzie), it probably isn't true.
All right then.. Hmmm.. how about:
"Doughty Money Vs. Lowball Bridge"?
Good point. I'll change the link. Check out the tweet I reported lower
edit: sorry for reporting the wrong link... But the rumor is true. Well, I mean, it is true that the current word is 2.75M$. Not that the rumor has been confirmed
Hmm.. A thread title that suggest only a black or white outcome, and no grey area in between... perfect. It doubles as a social commentary on habs fans in general.
Just wanted to get this on the front page of this thread:
Mandatory reading before using any of the empty rhetoric we keep hearing about Subban:
Subban vs His Peers
The holdout- In defense of PK Subban
Bergevin is starting to really pissing me off.
To me this hold-out is showing us how PK is not a team first type of player. When thinking about it Price could have easily embarased the management by holding out when Halak was traded but he did not and accepted to take a 2 years deal and proved himself before signing his longterm deal. And before anybody claim how Price was not proved yet he was still the best young netminder in the game with the most value around the NHL.
Why? He is doing the right thing....Subban has earned nothing....sign another two year deal and maybe after that if you have proven yourself and knocked off all the silly crap, u will get the big money....he can sit home all year and sulk.....Habs are 100% in the right here.
I used to disagree with this and thought most of that was due to his personality. And I still think a lot of it is based on nothing really substantial. However, the more this drags on and the more you hear about this type of thing the more you wonder. Where there is smoke there might be fire. Question is when it comes to these negotiations that I wonder is how much is PK the one to blame if indeed he's asking for too much or how much is Don Meehan.
You conveniently left out MB as part of your concerns.
If we had hired Mcguire PK would already be signed.
The same Pierre McGuire who went on the air and proposed the 3rd overall pick+Subban for the 1st overall pick ''and something else''?
Because he wants a fair value for his contract?
How does that even compute?
The same Pierre McGuire who went on the air and proposed the 3rd overall pick+Subban for the 1st overall pick ''and something else''?
What is "fair" value exactly?
Some people are claiming we should pay him over 5M$ ? For christ sake this is becoming a sad story from our fanbase to make that much pressure on a new GM that want to create his mark on that team.
That's because I agree with his contractual structure and I think PK should follow the same steps as Patches and Price. Personally I think MB's been around Chicago long enough to know how to properly build a winner and I think he's doing what is best to build a contender in the long-term.
The same Pierre McGuire who went on the air and proposed the 3rd overall pick+Subban for the 1st overall pick ''and something else''?
In the end Pk is still the one that control his destiny no matter what Meehan think!I used to disagree with this and thought most of that was due to his personality. And I still think a lot of it is based on nothing really substantial. However, the more this drags on and the more you hear about this type of thing the more you wonder. Where there is smoke there might be fire. Question is when it comes to these negotiations that I wonder is how much is PK the one to blame if indeed he's asking for too much or how much is Don Meehan.
Fair value would be somewhere between what the GM is offering, and what PK is asking. The stats prove that he's a #1 d-man on our team, so he should probably get paid like one.
You said that he is not a team player. I asked why, because this doesn't have anything to do with the team per say. It's his contract, not anyone else's.
He's more than proven himself to be a team player on the ice. If you are inferring that he isn't a team player because he hasn't signed whatever contract was offered, that's a logical fallacy.
Patrick Kane off elc = 5yrs @ 6.3aav
Jonathan Toews off elc = 5yrs @ 6.3 aav
But Toews is a thoroughbred, he's the captain and he has a great attitude.
Kane only punched that one cabby. His off ice issues are nowhere near those of PK's.
You build a contender in the long term by locking up your young players.
You don't build a winner by low-balling (if that's the case) your talent at the first opportunity.
i don't think PK should be asking for 6.3 aav over 5 years however anything between the 4 and 5.5 range is reasonable.
How is he different than a guy like Kulikov ?