Overrated Prospect Pool

[Answer]

None of the prospects are making any sort of impact in the NHL. Tkachuk and White are what they are, at this point.

Not even one forward has established himself at a top 6 forward in the NHL, yet

 

[Micklebot]

be careful of your charts Mick..Most of the guys have only produced at ~ 1/5 of their levels in the NHL versus AHL. And those whose productivity is about the same, are doing poorly in the AHL.

The college kids..well, there are plenty of Hobey Baker Winners that were busts.

The one true positive, the team is playing exceptionally well. And yes, a young AHL team that is successful can produce good prospects. Let's wait..

Not really anything to be careful of. NHL production is largely influenced by role, and we've mostly been easing guys into roles at the NHL level rather than thrusting them in. Basically, it's too early to read anything meaningful into the NHL numbers. That's where you need to be careful, I suppose I could have left the NHL numbers off entirely for that reason, but it's nice to see who got the callups and taste of the big leagues. That's not to say everyone with strong AHL numbers or College numbers will succeed at the next level, but if you're handicap the odds, you'd much rather they perform well at the lower levels than not.

 

[stempniaksen]

None of the prospects are making any sort of impact in the NHL. Tkachuk and White are what they are, at this point.

Not even one forward has established himself at a top 6 forward in the NHL, yet

I know you hate him, but Tkachuk is absolutely a top-six forward on every single NHL team.

Also not a Sens draft pick, but Duclair is starting to firm up his top-six status as well, imo.

The Batherson, Brown, Balcers, Norris, 2020 1st group will start to work their way into the NHL over the next few seasons. None of them (outside of maybe Batherson) are particularly disappointing this season, imo, so there's still plenty of time.

 

[Countdown0]

None of the prospects are making any sort of impact in the NHL. Tkachuk and White are what they are, at this point.

Not even one forward has established himself at a top 6 forward in the NHL, yet

Yes, the 20 year old Brady Tkachuk is finished his development as a player, because as we know, and as has been well documented, hockey players reach their physical and technical peak at age 20, never growing any bigger, faster, and stronger, nor becoming more skilled beyond that point. Clearly, the fact that last season he scored 22 goals as a 19 year old rookie keeps him from being projected as a top 6 forward on any NHL team, as evidenced by the fact that he is now player on a team with LESS skill and talent than he had with him at the start of last season, he currently has 15 goals, which is only slightly ahead of his goal scoring pace from last season. Yup, totally. No chance for any further growth or development in Tkachuk at all.

As for Colin White, I mean, hell, he's already 22 years old. Grey beard status achieved. Might as well trade him before the wear and tear of his long career starts to show, because that horse needs putting down fellas.

... seriously though, what? They "are what they are"? Do you mean in the literal sense that they are human beings primarily composed of water? Because that's the only manner in which you are accurate...

 

[Masked]

Well Brady is an All Star.

But if you think he is all he'll ever be and that filling out his frame isn't going to make him an absolute nightmare for the opposition on the board and in the slot, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Masked]

Man that Pinto pick looks so horrible with the way so many guys in the 2nd round are producing. Jamieson Rees is such a stud, plays such a physical fast skilled game. Looked incredible at the U 18's.

In only 2 months this did not age well.

 

[Xspyrit]

Not really related to this thread or current discussion but just a general feeling after surfing a few threads this morning :

Some posters on this board really have the weirdest takes, so outrageously biased that after a few times, it's almost impossible to take them seriously. God knows I have tried.

I don't get the fascination some have with standing by a an extreme point of view, which results in massive hyperbole and becomes totally unrealistic in a hurry

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I am more encouraged by the strength of the prospect pool now than I was at the beginning of the year. Still need some high end talent up front but the middle 6 forward prospect prospects are there. The D ... I am probably less encouraged by than I was at the beginning but we have 2-3 coming soon that could change that. We should be able to get a decent D prospect in the up coming draft. I think our goalie prospect depth is in good shape. It will be interesting to see what happens at the expansion draft as well.

 

[swiftwin]

Tkachuk and White are what they are, at this point

You mean an NHL all-star at 20 yrs old?

 

[Masked]

You mean an NHL all-star at 20 yrs old?

But not a top six forward.

 

[Micklebot]

But not a top six forward.

Poor Tkachuk is going to be getting perennial 3rd line duties on the all star team... What a bust.

 

[Cosmix]

Not really related to this thread or current discussion but just a general feeling after surfing a few threads this morning :

Some posters on this board really have the weirdest takes, so outrageously biased that after a few times, it's almost impossible to take them seriously. God knows I have tried.

I don't get the fascination some have with standing by a an extreme point of view, which results in massive hyperbole and becomes totally unrealistic in a hurry

I think it is caused by a desire to get attention.

 

[bert]

In only 2 months this did not age well.

Id still take Rees over him. Ill be sure to go through your post history and call you out on every potential wrong call you have made. In 2 years the post could also look terrific. So before you call someone out id be 100 percent sure about what you are saying.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

If I'm ever stupid enough to post something that suggests I know way more about scouting than professional scouts, have at it.

The problem with this is that other teams have scouts as well (probably more than the Sens).

 

[JungleBeat]

In only 2 months this did not age well.

Not much has changed.

 

[coladin]

Id still take Rees over him. Ill be sure to go through your post history and call you out on every potential wrong call you have made. In 2 years the post could also look terrific. So before you call someone out id be 100 percent sure about what you are saying.

He is saying that your post of Pinto being a “horrible” pick did not age well. No one is perfect, but chill out

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

If I'm ever stupid enough to post something that suggests I know way more about scouting than professional scouts, have at it.

Why are you here then? This is a forum about NHL prospects.

 

[topshelf15]

Needs more Dahlen

 

[R2010]

Id still take Rees over him. Ill be sure to go through your post history and call you out on every potential wrong call you have made. In 2 years the post could also look terrific. So before you call someone out id be 100 percent sure about what you are saying.

It's moreso the rush to judgement based on players you haven't seen much. Something admittedly we are all guilty of.