Ovechkin is still the King

[BallardEra]

Ovechkin now has 210 more goals than the next closest player ever since he entered the NHL in 2005.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Backstrom and kuznetsov are both better then draisatl

Obviously, but in terms of this year's points race the players he listed are all ahead.

 

[BallardEra]

Ovechkin - 29

Oshie - 10
Backstrom - 10
Vrana - 10
Wilson - 9

 

[um]

I know that. But that's not the point.

Its a bit of a cherry pick... Backstrom has 40 points, Carlson has 35, Kuznetsov has 31, he also gets to play with Oshie and Wilson. Ovechkin is not without support.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Its a bit of a cherry pick... Backstrom has 40 points, Carlson has 35, Kuznetsov has 31, he also gets to play with Oshie and Wilson. Ovechkin is not without support.

I never said he's without support. Listing the top 10 in pts isn't a "cherry pick", you're either in it or not.

 

[Fallschirmyager]

Its a bit of a cherry pick... Backstrom has 40 points, Carlson has 35, Kuznetsov has 31, he also gets to play with Oshie and Wilson. Ovechkin is not without support.

Nobody is saying that it's not subject to change. It absolutely is. What is being demonstrated is the optics of seeing 2 players from the same team in the top 10 in scoring hurts the standing of those players when compared with someone who doesn't have a team mate on that list. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong.

 

[um]

I never said he's without support. Listing the top 10 in pts isn't a "cherry pick", you're either in it or not.

Its a meaningless point to make.

If anything the reality of the situation is the opposite of the point you're attempting to make. It's like your trying to manipulate the stats for your argument.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Its a meaningless point to make.

If anything the reality of the situation is the opposite of the point you're attempting to make. It's like your trying to manipulate the stats for your argument.

If you think a top 10 finish is "meaningless" then I don't know what to tell you.

I'm not manipulating anything and there's no opinion here. It's a statistical list and you're either on it or not.

 

[gtrower]

Ovechkin - 29

Oshie - 10
Backstrom - 10
Vrana - 10
Wilson - 9

Half our top 6 missing signifant time has blown this out of proportion, but damn if that isn’t an argument for Hart consideration right now.

 

[BallardEra]

"He’s in a class of his own in today’s NHL. Since debuting in 2005-06, his 636 goals are 210 more than Sidney Crosby’s distant second-place total of 426.

But so many of today’s top goal scorers haven’t been in the league that long, so it’s not a fair comparison, right? Wrong. Over the last five seasons Ovechkin’s 214 goals dwarf Vladimir Tarasenko, who is second with 159.

Over the last three seasons? It’s still Ovechkin."

https://www.tsn.ca/by-the-numbers-ovechkin-as-good-as-ever-at-33-1.1228865

 

[BallardEra]

 

[Fallschirmyager]

That seems to be the one thing everyone agrees on. He may or may not catch Gretzky but the mere fact we're even talking about it is astonishing.

 

[BallardEra]

That seems to be the one thing everyone agrees on. He may or may not catch Gretzky but the mere fact we're even talking about it is astonishing.

Very true. The fact that he has a chance at breaking the record is amazing by itself.

 

[BallardEra]

Ovechkin as I've stated is 210 goals ahead of the next closest player since he entered the league.

When Gretzky was 14 seasons into his career he had a 183-goal lead over the second-leading goal-scorer during that stretch.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Good god man you like the cup champs AND the Leafs.

Insufferable.

 

[BallardEra]

Good god man you like the cup champs AND the Leafs.

Insufferable.

Born and raised in Toronto. Got into the Caps when I started to collect O-Pee-Chee cards and those hockey sticker albums.

I agree that there are many delusional Leafs fans here. I try to interact with the sane ones.

 

[Bustedprospect]

That seems to be the one thing everyone agrees on. He may or may not catch Gretzky but the mere fact we're even talking about it is astonishing.

Yeah it is Gretzky is the best ever but he benefitted highly from era, playing on a real dynasty and feasting on weaker teams.

Alex is less than 80 adjusted to pass Jagr and Howe played forever from the same age Ovi is now he played another 16 years. This is no longer possible though so he will retire #1 for any sane objective person.

Gretzky will be there on that that he passes and confirm this. Bu trust me Ovi will do this it means the world to him to get there. He knows he got the stamina, genes and longevity to do this.

 

[Fallschirmyager]

Good god man you like the cup champs AND the Leafs.

Insufferable.

So....bipolar and not in a nice way?

 

[PromisedLand]

50 in 50 is still on for Ovi. I hope he achieves it. Hoping for OV hatty against the pens tonight

 

[Boxscore]

I think Ovechkin is an iconic as Rocket Richard. For different reasons, obviously, but both are brilliant goal scorers that ooze passion and popularity.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

I think it's really time we consider that Ovechkin might be done. He's getting older, he's slowing down, and this might just really be the beginning of the end for him.





..was the narrative 3 friggin years ago. Whoops.